When did you realize you didn't care how fast you went?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by 2whl-hoop, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. ManiZ

    ManiZ Been here awhile

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    Wanted to add one more thing. After my last lane departure incident, I wrote to James Davis (who runs msgroup.org) and asked for advice. He replied quickly with a detailed response but one line really stuck with me: "Never ride at 100% of your ability or you will have no more to give should something unexpected occur".

    How remarkably true and well-put is that? I think about it several times on every ride. Approaching a curve I have taken dozens of times before, I know I can take it comfortably at 20mph above the speed limit but yet I stick with the speed limit or barely above, to give my skill some wiggle room (pun not intended) should the unexpected happen. Same goes for straight line riding; always leave room for correction.
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  2. ShardPhoenix

    ShardPhoenix Наглый ублюдок

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    I stopped caring about going fast (on public roads) when a friend of mine had his need for speed wind up being the catalyst for his death. Left an impression on the (then) 16 year old me.


    I appreciate speed when the time and place are appropriate. Since I'm rarely in places where that stipulation applies, I keep things reasonable.
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  3. Bogfarth

    Bogfarth Fridge Magnet Safety Tester

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    On city streets, the sun can create such flat light near dawn or dusk that pavement markings and tar snakes blend together. Lanes are gone, rumble bumps are invisible; it all becomes a big sheet of gold. First time I came around a corner and saw that, I lost all interest in velocity or twisty curves. Every now and then the itch comes up for speed. On certain roads I can scratch that itch, but the need is rare. Other than those rare occasions, even on the freeway, I keep to no more than 5 over. It's a public street, not a track, and conditions change block to block.

    When I graduate to a different bike, and I know I will at some point, my feelings won't change. I prefer my skin where it is, and track days exist for a reason.
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  4. dieselpete

    dieselpete Been here awhile

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    Every once in a while LEO reminds me to slow down in order to grow up...

    Money, and licence aside, just starting to enjoy riding at legal limits...

    Guess its old age, or the fact the GS tops out at 125.

    Without tunnel vision, speed some how lost its thrill.
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  5. Prettyboy

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    I can have fun going at or a little above the speed limit on most twisties, especially if it's a rural road, and the limit doesn't go down for the squiggly bits. Going 'fast' for me implies trying to do triple digits in a straight line.
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  6. jesse v

    jesse v Motorcyclist

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    I'm in the camp of not understanding the mutual exclusivity here. I like to use a "spirited" pace in the curvy sections (dependent on environmental conditions), and then mind the speed limits on the straight sections.
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  7. señormoto

    señormoto Supermoto Abuser

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    I know the feeling. I even had a court order to sell my 954RR due to speeding. The mindset changed for me when I realized it was far more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. Supermotos and dual sports make everything, even slow speed stuff, so much more fun compared to riding a sport bike. On the track that's one thing but sport bikes are just too capable to be legally fun to ride on the street.

    As for illegal fun on sport bikes, there's really nothing else quite like burning down the freeway doing 130-150mph on the 280 south and heading to Alice's for an early breakfast before hitting the canyons for some knee down turns and evading LEOs. Too dangerous after several years of that... everyone has to grow up I guess.
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  8. Squarehead

    Squarehead Crazed Lunatic

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    What he said....:deal
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  9. joexr

    joexr Banned

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    I normally go at least 10 over everywhere. Twisty roads I gauge by the speed limit. Generally I approach 3 times what's posted when possible. Backing down on straights allows slower accomplices to catch up. That and the donut boys usually shoot radar on the straights.
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  10. doorman

    doorman Aimless

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    There was never a realization. I have just never cared.
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  11. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    LOL, I've had over 120 moving violations in my time, and I've never had a court order to do anything other then pay the fines.
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  12. señormoto

    señormoto Supermoto Abuser

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    well put. canyons and corners in general are where it's at for skill and challenge. no chicken strips are the best chicken strips.
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  13. señormoto

    señormoto Supermoto Abuser

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    I guess it depends how fast those moving violations are. I preferred to outrun the cops all the time, which worked great until I got lazy and slowed down. When you get a couple of CHP cars chasing you at 135mph they don't tend to be too happy when they finally get you off the bike. I should have been arrested that time, not sure why I wasn't. Fine was pretty big. I didn't have to sell the 954 but the condition was either "lose license" or "lose bike", so I lost the bike and got another after the probationary period was over.
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  14. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    So your saying you'll do 105 mph in a 35 mph zone? 135 mph in a 45 mph zone?

    :huh


    :hmmmmm


    ...........................................
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  15. David R

    David R I been called a Nut Job..

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    So taking a posted 30 mph curve @ 90.

    Tires last longer AND HE GETS BETTER FUEL MILEAGE.

    Must be the synthetic oil.

    Sent from the phone in my shoe. Maxwell Smart.

    Sorry to feed the troll.
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  16. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Not in my experience. I never got a second choice when I lost my license. It was lose your license, or lose your license. :lol3
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  17. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Just think if he was riding in West TX where the posted speeds 85 MPH. :rofl
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  18. joexr

    joexr Banned

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    OK , well , to a point. I think you get the idea.:lol3 So texas has twisties posted at 85?
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  19. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Texas has NO twisties. :rofl
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  20. 2 spoke

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    Oh about when i turned 45 . I stopped caring how fast i was going on a my mt bike started to enjoy it for the ride. Then i knew it was safe for me to saddle up again
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