when does the d2d 2018 thread start?

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  1. cyclopathic

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    Good plan if weather cooperates and no failures; mechanical, flats or otherwise.

    They do put calcium chloride on Dampster, so would be nice to have some flexibility to avoid wet ride. On other hand it's a long ride, so it will likely rain at some point.
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  2. brennaman

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    That was pretty much the plan that I had. Not sure if I need all that much ice cream, but I seldom go more than a day or 2 without a good steak.
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    EDIT: For Dates

    Having given this further thought, I have decided that it would be wise to arrive BACK into Dawson City, on the evening of June 20th.....rather than a day later on June 21st. If we were to arrive BACK into Dawson City, after having ridden all day back from Inuvik, we would not get into Dawson City until later in the day, or into the evening. Which means, we "may" miss out on some daily ice cream or steak dinner, that others in the annual D2D are consuming...without our presense.

    A ride back from Inuvik will take us 10 hours and 37 minutes...give or take 15 seconds....so 'tis better to arrive on the night of June 20th, and awake on the morning of June 21st, snug as a bug (not a bed bug) in our beds in the Bunkhouse...and have all day to enjoy the festivities of the D2D, as we regale all the others with our ride up to Tuktoyaktuk.

    Therefore, I have already adjusted my reservations at the Bunkhouse, to include one extra night...a night BEFORE the previous reservation...not afterward, so it was easy to make that change. NOW reserved for 3 nights at the Bunkhouse...June 20th, 21st, and 22nd.

    All you other rapscallions should give thought to possibly doing the same.....IF you plan to ride from Dawson City to Inuvik, then up to Tuktoyaktuk BEFORE the D2D in Dawson City. :ricky:ricky:ricky:muutt

    (why does that last guy in line keep falling over ?)

    Double Edit: (oh my) :augie

    I have also made reservations for the Bunkhouse, in Dawson City, for the nights of June 16th & 17th, leaving Dawson City on the morning of the 18th, to ride up to Inuvik.

    And....made reservations at the Nova Inn...in Inuvik...for the nights of June 18th & 19th, leaving Inuvik on the early morning of June 20th, to ride back down to Dawson City.

    These trips are not cheap, despite hours of searching for less expensive rooms. But there is a "Trade Show" in Inuvik during the same time period, so rooms are at a premium price.

    When all is said and done, the 7 nights I have reserved as stated above, will cost each of us a total of $ 47.00 USD per night, if there are two riders in the room each night. Meaning, if someone is willing to share a room with me, then their cost will come out to $ 47.00 per night, for each of the 7 nights reserved above.

    And THAT is just ONE week of a 4 to 5 week trip. :jive
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    So you think 30mph average for 16hr is sustainable on Demster under any conditions? It is a good idea though to have an extra day. Last year there were several days delays due to fires.. just saying.

    Would not be a bad idea to arrange for stuff to be left at hotel; I was told you can leave it at visitor center.

    EDIT: I am thinking a dry bag over rear seat, tent, sleeping bag/pad, water and gas.. just in case if you get stuck. Some simple rations to last for a couple days.
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    16 hours... where did that come into play ?
    My calculations are for a ride of 10 hours and 37 minutes.... maintaining an average speed of 45 mph, after inclusion of the one mandatory gas stop, and two other stops... for the halibut.
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    Google says 770km/480mi 15h 38min. That is 30mph average including stops.

    Canadian government pays tribes to haul gravel to Dempster, so they will when they need money. Besides deep gravel, there are some sections of brownish silt, which are sketchy.
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    Okay..................I will have a warmed-up dinner plate waiting for you in Inuvik.........so when you pull in 5 hours after I do, you at least have something to eat that late at night :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)

    At this point, none of us really know this far in advance what the road conditions will be up to Inuvik, and then farther up to Tuktoyaktuk.
    Despite the not knowing, I plan on riding at an average speed of 55 mph, so that when my total of 3 stops are included into the equation, I end up averaging 45 mph.

    I can't speak for others, but I know me, and how I ride, and this is VERY doable.
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    Let's hope you wouldn't have ferry stuck waiting for someone from Dawson to come and fix it.
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  9. Drunk_Uncle

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    When I rode the Dempster it was the best road conditions I think you could hope for. Other than between the two ferries, we averaged 65mph. Between the ferries that dropped a bit for the fresh 2-4" of pea gravel. Add to that that the town north of Eagle Plain gas station doesn't open until noon on Sunday, it took me two and half days. Your mileage may very.
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    Took me two days going up to Inuvik with fresh gravel and rain, one day back to Dawson City in excellent conditions, we slid by a fire just below Eagle Plains right before they closed the road. I'd plan on at least 4 days of going to Tuk.
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  11. Tim Graichen

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    Hey all, I too will be traveling North in 2018 from Ohio on my 09GS. I plan to depart June 9, 2018, and have a full 90 days to enjoy my trip. I also plan on doing both Tuk and Dead Horse, and would love to meet up with some riders to do both of those legs with. I haven't committed to D2D, or doing Tuk immediately following D2D, as I kind of planned on running Beartooth , Going to the Sun, and Banff / Ice Fields on the way up, and I'm not sure if I could do this and still be in Dawson in 12 days.

    That being said, I could make D2D priority if it meant having a group to ride to Tuk / DH with. I plan on camping for most of my 90 day adventure, but am not adverse to using a hotel on occasion. Would be great to find a couple of riders willing to pitch tent, enjoy a cigar and camp North of the circle, as this is a bucketlist item for me. I also would certainly be willing to split a room with anyone in Dawson, Inuvik, Tuk, Fairbanks, Coldfoot, DH if it makes things easier.

    What I am not interested in doing is riding extreme daily miles. I'm planning on two days up and two days back to / from each far Northern point (Tuk and DH).

    Please keep me in this loop!!!!!
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  12. cyclopathic

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    No it isn't Jesse James :)
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    Tim Graichen Been here awhile

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    I have reserved a room with two full beds in Dawson City for 2018 D2D at the Downtown Hotel, from June 20 - 23. If your looking for a nice room and want to split the cost, let me know. My total cost for three nights is 542.85 $CAD. So therefore, 275 $CAD gets you three nights in a nice room.
    http://downtownhotel.ca/

    Let me know

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  15. sebanks

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    That’s what I’m doing, riding to Tuk before D2D and the mad rush up the Dempster that’s sure to follow. Although, in my experience, a lot of people turn around at Eagle Plains. The Dempsters a tough ride...
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  16. cyclopathic

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    We turned around at gas station when tried to fill emergency gas can and it broke, so not having enough gas turned back. Turned out to be a right choice my son hated TOW and Taylor very much and wasn't up to task.

    With as many flats people had on Dempster b/c of shale something like Mitas Dakars or Motoz Tractionators with armored casting is way to go, and if you have tubes and were thinking about tubeless conversion now would be time to do it.

    Dempster surface is more consistent comparing to Dalton, fewer hills/turns. No asphalt but that soft brown silt to watch out. Since they use Calcium Chloride it will be slippery like catshit if it rains and earlier you go more loose gravel. So it could be an easy ride or very hard ride but you wouldn't know until you get there. Most likely it will be in between and it will rain at some point.

    Need to figure out logistics would be nice to carry tent, sleeping bag, water/filter and some food in case if you get stuck or need to stop. On other hand not having all this on bike makes big difference will see.
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    I rode the Dempster a couple of years ago. In my experience (driving rain, extreme cross winds, nasty gravel and the ferries having invariably just left), it’s a 12 hour ride with a meal, fuel and a long break at Eagle Plains. I rode up one day, rode back the next. My plan for Tuk next year is to leave Minneapolis June 9, swap tires in White Horse June 15, Dawson June 17, Inuvik June 18, Tuk June 19 then back to Dawson for D2D on June 21, drink beer and have stupid motorcycle arguments for two days and go home, probably through Vancouver...
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    Then YOU will be in Tuk on the same day as we are, so......lunch is on me....on June 19th.....at "most likely" the only dining hall in town.
    We will be leaving Dawson City, just like you are, on June 18th. One day ride to Inuvik, then riding to Tuk on the 19th, and back to Inuvik that same day. Ride back to Dawson City on the 20th, so we can argue with you about motorcycles, when you "finally" show up the next day...and spend 3 days arguing about motorcycles. :-)
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  19. brennaman

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    Wow that road may be a little crowded. I will also be going up to Tuk about the same day as the last 2 posts. My schedule is kinda flexible, but that sounds like my basic plan. See you all there, i will be leaving Kansas City around the 9th of June.
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    Looks like I am going to be buying lunch for a crowd...which is good.

    Tip: any rider that shows up in Tuk, wearing a RED clown nose...the red foam nose....will also get ALL the drinks on me too.
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