When is the 1190 ADV hitting the US?

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  1. waylongway

    waylongway madmax

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    I asked the KTM guy witch on he would get and he said he would go with the standard because of better tire choices.
    or just ride his dirt bike.

    But a true dirt guy would go for the R I would think, And you get the crash bars w/ it .

    Or what MOTOKEITH said. He would have a better insight. :deal

    If it was me I would ride it before I bought it.

    But that just me..
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  2. motokeith

    motokeith Been here awhile

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    That's pretty much my situation - I have a 690 Enduro R for my offroad antics and the 990 Adventure is just sort of my go anywhere street bike. I keep it shoed with Conti Trail Attacks and ride it on nothing worse than fire road two-track jeep trail type stuff. As such, I tried out the standard because it leans more towards street with light dirt duty and that suits my needs.
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  3. Trail newb

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    I have the R and I would love to share a few thoughts with you on the bike. Long time lurker, sorry!

    I still can't believe we have it before the yanks.....:rofl Sorry, couldn't resist, It will probably be the one and only time it happens! Good marketing tho, like blood in the water, sharks in every bloody thread!

    I am not a brilliant rider, I consider myself consistent, I have binned it on track and learnt they DO make it look easy on TV :lol3. Have raced bikes for a few years and have been on and off road for around 20. I test rode both models as I was lucky enough to ride a colleagues R bike. I'm no pro so take what you want from this spiel!!!

    The fuelling is really, really good. Low down fuelling in 1st gear for tracks or traffic has proven to be very pleasant. A very light throttle action may take some a little time to get used to but trail braking the front into corners and rolling on the throttle is seamless. Even when in a gear too low or high. I have the wings standard pipe and its bloody loud with the baffle out! Sounds awesome and is shit loads lighter then standard can.

    The gearbox is also great. A little hesitant at very first but with a few good rides and higher rpm's, it is now smooth and light.

    The electronic suspension on the standard is very good. A noticeable difference between settings and suits that bike and its intended purpose. I think KTM did the right thing making it "only" an option on the R. I have tinkered with my manual setup and it responds really well to fine adjustments, the reason why I think they have conventional suspension on the R. Plus they know we HAVE to have something to play with and blame for that front end loose.....

    It's stupid easy to wheelie, even this ham fisted f@$k wit can get the front to climb. Clutch or power it up, just remember to turn off the MTC.

    The dash has not given me any trouble here in sunny OZ, we have had no rain in Queensland for like a month, off topic sorry.

    Both bikes are great rides in my opinion. I'm not an overly critical person though and was lucky to be in the position to choose one. I was surprised how good the 21" front of the R felt on fast Tarmac (never thought I would have 150hp + 21" front wheel!)

    There have been problems. I found the heat on the standard bike a little more offensive, the air filter is a bit of a bummer, but not the end of the world, there will be a solution. KTM have been quite good about fixing the re-call's, some dealers need a swift kick up the arse in following up re-calls though. Not sure how 950 990 owners will take to the new model, will be interesting reading when you finally get the bike over there. Oh, some one needs to make a wheel set ASAP

    Thanks for reading my dribble, hope it helps you out a little.
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  4. Hoologan

    Hoologan Been here awhile

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    I concur with your assessment good sir. The standard 1190 would make a great replacement for my Vstrom and I'll keep the XRR for the knar knar. ;)
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  5. waylongway

    waylongway madmax

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    So this is what Questor just Said.

    So I did ride the 1190 and 1190R.
    In summary: I would say that these bikes are very smooth, very powerful, and are all around a significant improvement to what KTM has made in the past. The bike had plenty of power and delivers is smoothly. The brakes are excellent, and the ergonomics will provide easy riding and a good riding position. They will be worthy competitors for bikes like the Ducati Multistrada, BMW K1300GT, and other powerful Canyon chaser bikes.
    However, this is not the type of bike I prefer. It's too smooth, too quiet, and too complicated. Six separate computers. Complicated ABS and traction control systems. Fuel injection and chipped keys / anti-theft systems. These are all things I don't need to be worrying about when I'm hundreds of miles from the nearest paved road.

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=925090&page=6
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  6. TIGERRIDER007

    TIGERRIDER007 Long timer

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    I have to say it is an awesome powerplant. The bike is really easy to ride. It is very smooth. I rode around Dobbins Air Force Reserve base briefly on a demo ride, from Mountain Motorsports in Marietta.
    I agree with previous assessments and observations, although I didn't feel any heat, probably due to cooler air temps, but I did notice something weird...
    This standard 1190 seemed hard to keep down in a curve, it kept wanting to come back up to upright. Hard to describe, but it gets to a certain point when leaning over, then you have to work harder to push it down into a more severe lean angle, kind of unnerving at first.

    Has anyone experienced this on demo rides? :huh

    By the way if you are in the area of Marietta, go by Mountain Motorsports and see Ivan for a demo ride. :D

    The bike is starting at $16,500 and the R $16,800 so he said. :clap
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  7. Dearnla

    Dearnla Been here awhile

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    As a new, UK based owner of the std ADV (with electronic suspension) I think I can answer most of your questions.
    * Low speed fuelling is excellent. I upgraded from a 990 Supermoto, so know full well the twitchy throttle syndrome! I deliberately tested it at low revs - between 2k and 3k - and higher gears. I can use 4th gear at 30 mph on the flat.....
    * Exhaust weight - nah, can't feel it there.
    * Gearbox is smooth. I regular missed 3rd to 4th on my 990SM (unless wearing MX boots) but no such problems on the 1190. You can do clutch less up changes AND down changes (with a blip of the throttle).
    * Electronic suspension makes a difference to the damping. Spring rate isn't changed, of course. I find I use comfort mode down bumpy back roads at speed, and you can really feel it working. Not forgetting the preload adjustment for Rider only, luggage, pillion, pillion + luggage. That definitely works.
    * Sport mode gives you a livelier throttle (and automatically selects sport suspension) and yes, it will wheelie. Add the top box and fill it with laptop etc.....:evil
    * digital display is just fine, because it's black characters on a white background.
    So, get a test ride and find out for yourself!:freaky
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  8. Jake Mountain

    Jake Mountain Been here awhile

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    I took a demo ride on some back roads near mooresville NC on roads I know and I did not experience what you describe. I felt the bike was easy to lean in and stay in a turn. I buzzed around where there is almost no traffic and was running between 60-100 mph most of the ride which was about 30 miles. I am 6'6" and 330 pounds so a bike that weighs 500 pounds for me is fairly light. It was interesting to go from my 11 C-14 to the KTM and back. The engine on the 1190 is just awesome, I was in sport mode with traction control off and it will lift the front wheel 1st-4th with relative ease. I found the mapping to be spot on at all speeds and the throttle by wire was fantastic. Honestly I could not imagine a better all around bike for the riding I do.
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  9. harryzgnilek

    harryzgnilek Been here awhile

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    I just ordered one. Delivery February , I too have a concours 1400.. 2011, how are the differences? I sold my triumph speed triple to get this bike.. Wanted an all rounder to do a month trip all over USA and Canada
    Thanks
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  10. Two Moto Kiwis

    Two Moto Kiwis Homeless Somewhere

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    You guys are very lucky in the US, the R here in Colombia is essentially $30k US
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  11. Stobie

    Stobie Mr. Motivated

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    Does Scott have a demo bike, or was a demo truck there yesterday?
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  12. Espada

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    True, but you live in a country riddled with beautiful women. It's give, and take, my friend :D
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  13. EZ300

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    Moto City had one here in AZ this weekend for the 2013 Howlin at the Moon dual sport rally. Beautiful bike!

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  14. SCflyer

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    Probly got a demo. Last time I was there, he said he was waiting on it and read someone had posted he had one...
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  15. Zuber

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    The standard 1190 has wide radials on wide wheels. If the tires were a little below normal pressure, this is what you'd feel. When the tires wear in the center it gets worse. This is how the 17" motard wheels/tires feel. I don't like it.

    I'd prefer the 21/18 wheels and manual suspension knobs. It would be great to have tubeless tires though.
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  16. TIGERRIDER007

    TIGERRIDER007 Long timer

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    Gotcha! This makes sense, it was a demo so, who knows what pressures they are running and even if they check them...I would really have to ride the R to see if I would buy one for sure.
    Thanks for the that explanation.
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  17. ktmwes

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    Another C1400 rider here that just put a deposit down for an 1190 and apparently have quite a wait in front of me :cry
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  18. tedmarshall

    tedmarshall Been here awhile

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    Rode the standard 1190 Adv for an hour yesterday. FYI: I DID NOT RIDE IT OFF-ROAD. This bike is. Quantum leap for KTM. They will sell many of these as
    Long as buyers test ride them. SMOOTH. Did I say smooth? Smooth throttle, clutch, brakes. MUCH improved over the 990. I own a modded 2010 990 BTW.
    BUT the ergos for me said "This isn't a dual-sport." I am old, ancient really, almost 58. But I still ride lots of off- road. The pegs were like my old Ducati ST2, too far back and up. I am 6 feet tall. The bars were too far forward and down. Standing on the pegs was useless. The seat was fine but too low. I have 33" inseam.

    I put a deposit down on a 1190 Adv R.

    Ted
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  19. tmyhog

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  20. mantan

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    I also got to test ride both the std. and the R at the demo. Its a fantastic bike. Looking to replace my 06 1200GSAdv.

    I noticed significant heat around the seat on the R but the std. was fine. Maybe the one piece R seat pan is closer to the engine and has less padding?

    The other thing I noticed is that difference in seat height between the std. and R is not much. The R felt almost exactly the same height as my GSAdv which has a Sargent low seat.

    My only minor nit is the turn signal switch. It has almost no play side-ways or for the push to cancel. Feels awkward but I am sure not a real problem.

    Handling and performance is really good on the street. I am interested in the std. model as I also use it for commuting and have an RXV550 for off-road. In some ways, the 1190 reminded me of the RXV!
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