Where are all the supermotos going?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by grinder96, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. grinder96

    grinder96 Long timer

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    i love and have continued to look(in a private browser) for a Wr250X...I have heard such great things about that little bike...._
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  2. lstzephyr

    lstzephyr Solo con rambo

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    Bah. Stay away from bikes that can't be converted if you only want one bike. I have a bike that can do just about anything with a simple wheel swap.

    I've raced this thing, commuted to work or class, carryed frightened passengers, luggage, ridden it 600+ miles in a stretch, battered it offroad, rebuilt it a few times and it still just fires up and works.

    Its all about perspective. I keep my xr around because I just haven't been able to find anything I want to do with a motorcycle that I cant do with it.:lol3

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  3. jon_l

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    DR650

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  4. Dracothius

    Dracothius Berserker

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    I may have to get one of those. I keep looking at those bikes. They seem to fill most of the notches I need to have filled. I was just worried if the motors could ocasionally carry my wife and me at 55-60. I'll have to try and get a test ride on them.
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  5. Lesharoturbo

    Lesharoturbo Nerdly Adventurer

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    I really enjoy these power discussions.

    I once drove a 1961 VW Beetle from Port St Lucie FL to Grand Rapids MI. What is the relationship you ask? The 1200cc air cooled 4 cylinder has 36hp to move 1500lbs of car and 220lbs of Bernie. I kept it at 75 MPH with me and my luggage with zero issues. I was passing the slower traffic at 80+. I feel a more modern single cylinder engine carrying less than half the payload may do as well if not better than the VW.

    By the way, the 1200cc air-cooled boxer only takes 2.5qts of oil and does not have an oil filter.
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  6. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    With respect to the Husky SM630.. I've had my girlfriend as pillion with me for 150 - 200 mile rides on her SM630 and never had a problem with power at all. Cruise at 75 mph easily and still have plenty of torque to pass. Your biggest worry is about replacing the saddle to add enough comfort for your pillion on pavement runs where you are typically seated. For the SM630 that was about ~$175. The bike also comes with OEM passenger foot pegs.
    If your skilled you can still do a partial stoppie with a pillion using some of the best front brakes available for the bike weight.. just make sure they know what you are up to. :eek1
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  7. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    don't forget to include aerodynamics and gearing in your assumption.. :deal
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  8. Dracothius

    Dracothius Berserker

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    I'm only worried that the bike will get up to speed so slow that it could cause safety issues when in traffic or merging into a lane in motion(i.e. interstate). Not that I plan on going on the interstate all that much but, it could happen.
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  9. LittleRedToyota

    LittleRedToyota Yinzer

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    i'm 6'0" 225lbs, so not 300lbs, but not a total lightweight. my DRZ will out accelerate the vast majority of cars. getting up to speed for highway merging is not an issue at all for me. (highway speeds around here are 60 to 70 mph, though. i have 14/47 gearing and, if i lived somewhere were highway speeds were 85mph, i might have an issue with maintaining that speed for long distances.)
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  10. Lesharoturbo

    Lesharoturbo Nerdly Adventurer

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    No doubt. With the 4 speed, i doubt the gearing of the Beetle form that era was much different then more modern vehicles, but i could be wrong.

    Aerodynamics? I would tend to believe the Beetle has several times more frontal area. The overall drag may be close to the same, depending on the riders roundness and aerodynamics. But weight is also a great factor since acceleration is a concern.
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  11. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    You really need to test drive a 600 cc supermoto so you can understand how comical your statement was.. sorry.
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  12. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    :freaky :lol3
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  13. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds I'm alive.

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    Seems like nice guys. I started a couple emails with them. Thanks for the suggestion.
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  14. thebigman

    thebigman bout a dollar 3.98

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    Yea , they will take care of you and prices are inline also ,

    anyway's

    about SUPERMOTO's where they're at , :evil

    In Austin Tx a few days ago , I borrowed this from another site . :deal

    Yall Enjoy. :clap




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  15. Dracothius

    Dracothius Berserker

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    I have rode a 600. I understand you think a 600 is the bees knees but, when I weigh 300 pounds with gear, then add my wife fully geared, loaded luggage and a full, after market, gas tank, the weight needed to be pulled around will weigh more then the bike itself by a lot. Some 600's would be double their weight at that point. I am saying that with this much weight I could see there being some problems. I'm glad you got a laugh though.
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  16. Lesharoturbo

    Lesharoturbo Nerdly Adventurer

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    Sounds like you need a Goldwing or a SUV.
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  17. jgino157

    jgino157 Yer' mom!!!

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  18. Dracothius

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    It's like talking to Harley riders and trying to point out flaws with their bikes. I asked for advice and get satirical comments and relpies because the thought that their bikes may not be able to do what I ask of them is absolutely ridiculous. I posted here because I was saying why I (and most people) have not pulled the trigger on a supermoto. Most people will not own more then one bike and need that bike to be able to perfom multiple tasks. Such as the tasks I stated. Then they come on these forums and say, you know I've been riding offroad, onroad, never rode, whatever and I would like advice on whether or not these biikes can handle my needs. The community responds with: of course you idiot, to even think otherwise proves you have never rode one and should just go ride with the dentists who ride once a month on 30,000 dollar motorcycles. Thank you for being just like every other motorcycle clique. The starbucks riders would be proud.
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  19. Lesharoturbo

    Lesharoturbo Nerdly Adventurer

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    I was aiming for a chuckle, but seem to have hit a nerve. :lol3

    Let's see:
    300lbs with gear
    ~150lbs with gear (wife)
    ~15-20 lbs extra gas
    ~50-60lbs of luggage

    so about 500-550 lbs

    There are very few bikes that can handle that duty continuously. The Goldwing is one.

    I too can only afford 1 bike and it must perform multiple duties. However, it performs 1 job far more than others. That is what drove me to purchase my particular machine. It can still handle the others, but I woudln't use it that way full time. I am sure that you and the wife would not be packing up for a trip every day, but maybe once or twice a season. I would suggest that as a guide.

    I do not own a supermoto, but I think it is a great bike for commuting and occasional 2 up touring. Most of all, some back road scratching.
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  20. Dracothius

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    Yea, sorry about that. Hard to interpret true meaning through here. I get so much crap on here for some of the questions I ask that I always assume people mean it that way. Minus the wife, I'm still around 400lbs with gear, etc. I just dont know if these bikes can handle weight like that every day. Right now I drive 30min to over a hour depending on if I'm going to one of my jobs or school. There are sections where 70-80 mph is the norm for driving speed. I don't plan on having my wife with me too much but, who knows. I keep coming back to the dr 650. It seems to really be able to do anything. Even made to do some things quite well. We'll see. I really need to get her and go ride them. I have rode them by myself and they seem(with some investments in supsension,etc.) to be very capable machines.
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