Where are the singles?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by 40cu.in.of.furey, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. surly357

    surly357 Cochetopa dreamin'

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    i'd really like to stumble onto one of those, one of the neatest looking japanese bikes ever, imho. last time i saw one on CL the ad was gone in less than 40 minutes!!

    about a dozen years ago there was a 400cc single show bike on hondas site. cafe style, white frame w/chrome tank. of course it never happened but i personally would have bought one immediately.....
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  2. chazbird

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    When introduced Those GB 500's sat on the dealer floor for a couple of years before being sold for a song...and now. I guess tastes change. When I see one, rarely, for sale they always start at $4k, and might not be in very good shape either. At that rate I'd try and find a SRX600.

    Anyway, I'm off to ride the BV250 - getting closer to a possible buy, but I'd love to try a CBR-250R, none around at the dealers, and probably no real tests rides either.

    The BV just goes better, handles better, stops better than most of the larger big bore thumpers I've owned or ridden.

    The Bullet prices in India are real out the door too, tax, license, reams of paper work, everything. From my experience the 350 was a nicer bike, neither have any power, and both are really only good to 35 mph before the paint shaker effects takeover, so what's the difference? The drum brakes on the 350 were as good as the disc on the 500, ditto the 4 speed vs the 5 speed, didn't need the electric start, or, even the name the "500 Machismo". Both were very looking bikes, but the 350, the most basic Enfield in India, was gorgeous, done up in the 50's paint scheme that they never bothered to change. It's a pity the 350 isn't offered in the US, or probably elsewhere for that matter.
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  3. danketchpel

    danketchpel Long timer

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    If I could stumble across a nice GB500 for a "reasonable" price I'd jump on it. The last one I saw was at a local dealership in for service. It was in excellent condition.

    Ya, it seems to go that way for many a good bike. I think often the manufacturers are head of the curve and the buying public takes too long to figure it out, at least here in the states. I can think of quite a few bikes that has happened with.

    A buddy of mine has a SRX600 that is quite tasty with some different 3 spoke wheels on it. I rode it briefly many years ago and liked it, but there was something funky about the twin carb setup and it wouldn't run worth a crap above about 1/2 throttle. Maybe I should try to convince him to sell it to me.... again..... hmmm.

    I suspect that will be a problem. It's so dang hard to get a test ride on a Japanese bike unless you hit up the MC shows or a dealer demo day. The problem with many of the demo days is they don't have all the bikes available. I wanted to demo a Yamaha WR250R at a recent dealer's demo day and was told it wasn't available for demo even though they had two in the Yamaha trailer. I was told by the Yamaha test crew it was up to the dealers what gets demo'd, it sucks and doesn't make any sense.


    That sounds about right based on my test ride. My plan was to gear up the 500 sufficiently that it thumped along at low rpm so I could save my fillings while I cruised down the back roads. I'm not sure I could bring myself to ride the freeway on one. It reminded me a great deal of my BSA 441 Victor, except my much modified Victor had about 2.5x the power.
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  4. Thumpermeister

    Thumpermeister roost maker

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    Look no further! :lol3

    sr500%20bsa.jpg
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  5. tassie jeeper

    tassie jeeper XR Cafe Racer

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    recently stumbled onto these myself they run the yammy 500 engine but where does one aquire one of these newly released bikes under the BSA badge...?
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  6. tassie jeeper

    tassie jeeper XR Cafe Racer

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    my father has just droped about 5k into his new bullet in the form of engine parts it has been bored and stroked to 612cc has a ported head, cams hd oil pump, flatslide carb and a few other bits an pieces it should put out aproximatly 40HP once done which isnt too bad concidering (it is the same engine they used in "1952"):freaky
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  7. tassie jeeper

    tassie jeeper XR Cafe Racer

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    also if u buy an enfeild buy a kickstart ony model if u wanna do any engine mods to it but if u must have an e/start model u can get a pre09 model ie (pre UNIT models):deal
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  8. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    Probably the best BSA you'll ever ride is one with a Yammy engine.
    Frankly, I'd rather just cram a 660 into a tracker frame and then fit a BSA tank on it for the looks. The MZ Baghira used the 660 and was a fun bike to ride. A cafe bike with a 660 would be a hoot.
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  9. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    Yeah, that. But with a more retro look would be neato mosquito.
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  10. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    But,they still sell carbed DR650's and XR650L's,a DR makes a perfectly good big single street bike with just a few changes.
    The OP says he wants a big single street bike but he already has one.

    Some people want a single,and not a twin or triple,that's the fascination.
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  11. dlmarquez

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    Well, the situation does appear to slowly be improving, with encouraging rumors!
    We have the Royal Enfield, the CBR250R, The TU250, the BMW and Husky singles, and we are going to be getting the KTM Duke 390 according to all the rumors
    There are also rumors of a Triumph single in the 250-350 range.
    This just leaves Yamaha out in the cold. I can't imagine they will stay there forever.
    I suspect we will be seeing Chinese branded 250-350 street singles in the near future in the US as well
    I sure would like to see the see the SR400 or an SRX 400!!!:clap:clap
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  12. acap650

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  13. dogjaw

    dogjaw plays well alone

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    The mods one can do to a DR650 to make it into any type of bike you want are almost endless; mine is set up like a semi flat tracker with a 19" front, suspension/carb/exhaust mods, etc, etc; so much fun to ride that I find it impossible to justify another street bike... At least until the new Hondas hit the dealers.
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  14. Birdmove

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    The Suzuki S40 is a nice street thumper. There is a good forum for the Savage/S40. Here it is:

    http://www.suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl

    Read up about the cam chain tensioner and an easy mod you can do. Yours should be fine for quite a while, but knowledge about the issue is a good thing.
    I used to ride a 2007 Royal Enfield Bullet. Geez, you'da thought I was riding a flaming radical chopper by the amount of interest generated about that bike every time I rode it. You have to allow extra time on any ride to talk to the bikers that will approach you asking about the bike.

    I hope we get a Triumph thumper, and the new KTM. I like all the single cylinder dual sports and the Suzuki TU250 too. I've owned a lot of thumpers over 51 years of riding, and hope to get another one.
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  15. ShardPhoenix

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    Here's my '05 S40.

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  16. JerryH

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    I happen to LOVE old technology in ANY kind of motor vehicle. Especially motorcycles. If old technology is built with quality (like Harley) it can last a long time. If it isn't, like the RE Bullet, then it will be nothing but trouble. Sadly, both new Harleys and Royal Enfields are now fuel injected. God I love carbs. I own 2 liquid cooled bikes, and have owned over 20. Never had a problem. Liquid cooling goes back to the Model T, so it is hardly new technology. But I wouldn't even consider owning a bike with FI or ABS. Totally kills the soul of the machine.

    The Suzuki S40 is the ONLY air cooled big single street bike with a carburetor left in production. I also love the engine, but not crazy about the rest of the bike. But since it is still in production, parts will be available for a long time. I fully intend to buy a nice used one in the not too distant future and hang onto it while I figure out what to do with it. I just love some of the customs I've seen built out of it. I don't even know if Ryca is even selling anything yet, and their stuff is super expensive. You could buy a nice pre FI Bonneville for the cost of an S40 and a Ryca kit. No, it's not a single, but it is a very retro vertical twin with no "new" technology on it.

    As for bikes like the SR500 (which was developed from the XT500 dual sport) and the GB500 (which also uses a dirt bike engine), best of luck ever finding one of those. Like the Kawasaki W650, they are all in private collections now, and if you do find one for sale, it would cost a fortune. A carbed TU500 or 650 would be great, but it isn't going to happen. I would grab a nice used S40 now while you can, then figure out a way to make it look the way you want. It's both air cooled and carbed, and the engine is beautiful. You could even ride it while you try to figure out what to do with it.
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  17. ShardPhoenix

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    Yeah, but the S40 has tubed tires and no center-stand.

    Horrible road bike.

















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  18. NJ-Brett

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    sr500's turn up on ebay and craigslist from time to time around here.
    Here is one for $600.00
    http://cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/3419316881.html

    There are 5 on ebay now, this one looks nice:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMA..._motorcycles&hash=item337dfa3e78#ht_500wt_724


    I also love the s40 motor and hate the chopper look and forward controls.
    Makes you want to learn to weld.

    Here are some others:
    Honda Ascot ft500,
    Suzuki sp 500 did they make a street only version?,
    xs400 (twin but cool)

    So many bikes, so little money....
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  19. Birdmove

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    Want to name a long list of bikes that have a center stand? How about tubeless tires?? How about name a bike that has both?? Some boob in the industry decided that center stands and kick starters were not needed and look where we are now? Maybe the last Japanese bike with a centerstand was the Suzuki GS500F?? Of course the old race bikes and dual sports didn't have them, but just about all street bikes came with centerstands. I bet the current redesigned Royal Enfields come with centerstands, and kick starters are an option. My 2007 had both.

    The S40 a horrible road bike? Maybe not real comfy, but I bet that big 650cc single has decent torque and a nice pull. And doing 100mph is overrated.



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  20. ShardPhoenix

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    Hey, I was making a joke towards JerryH because in so many threads he's made a big stink about tubless tires, center stands and all that.

    That's why there was the little hide emoticon.

    (BTW, In case you missed it-- I ride an S40, I know that it's got some nice torque and decent pull and 100mph is overrated)
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