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Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by BMW_BIKER_KEITH, Jun 2, 2010.
So noeprene now damages metal?
nope, the grit that gets up under it does the damage, as well as the moisture the gater holds in.
Check them out on the inside after a good muddy ride.
So, you realize a scored slider (which is permanent--and expensive--damage) creates a leaking seal, right? ...and it can accelerate wear/damage to the bushings. A leaking seal from a piece of lodged debris on the other hand (which is by far the overwhelming cause of leaking seals) is something that usually gets noticed and rectified immediately...for $0 and no permanent damage.
Look, the only reason I posted is because some folks will assume the mere existence of this thread (and the opinions therein) is proof that [short] neoprene gaiters provide *more* protection than nothing at all. They do not. VERY few people use them, even fewer from the experienced crowd, and nobody uses them for extreme race situations, like MX and Dakar.
Carry on with whatever bike purchase you wish to make. Its your bike, and your money.
Fill a condom up w/ a bunch or grit and "go for a ride". You will see how your forks feel w/ a neoprene fork protector.
The full length protectors will guard against nicks.
As mentioned, there are other things to consider when using these in wet environments.
I guess I have never thought about it. I have never used them because I think they look stupid...
I'm not saying I'm going to use the things. Quite the contrary. I've seen more evidence that they do harm than good. I've just wondered why they still sell 'em I guess.
I've decided I'm going to not use them and just keep the sliders and seals cleans after rides.
Should i wear a condom or not....?
Keep it clean, brother.
Dirt, mixed with oil, held securely in place by a velcro neoprene sleeve.
Re-chrome here we come.
You are better off popping the dust wiper seal out after every big dirt ride and thoroughly washing it all out. I've tried lots of ways to make the seals last longer, none of them work definitively. If I get 20,000kms of pure dirt riding out of them I'm doing ok I figure.
This discussion is right up there with the ones on the Scott Oiler and Dynabeads.
I like the gaiters on USD Forks. I had some crap get in my seal on the XChallenge and started leaking. I cleaned the gunk out and put on some full length gaiters from Tourtech and had no more problems in 10,000 miles.
I put a set on my WR 250 R and have about 7,000 miles on it with no fork issues.
I have not installed any gaiters on my F 800 yet. If I have any problems I will.
It does not matter what you say, I think they work for me!
The trick is to get FULL length neoprene sleeves, that go from the upper tube all the way down to the bottom of the chrome lower tube. If they are securely mounted then dirt or mud will simply not get in. You just have to make sure that they do not limit fork travel by bunching up too much at full compression.
Colebatch has over 60.000 kms, most of it off road and with plenty of mud, on the same set of fork seals on his USD forks. Others who rode the same tracks without sleeves had leaking seals many times, requiring replacements often.
For seal cleaning (not always a solution), the Risk Racing Seal Doctor is great though.