Where to store registration paperwork

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by GPHusky250, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. aclundwall

    aclundwall Been here awhile

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    We have to carry insurance cards, of course, same as y'all! But we don't GET registration paperwork. All we have is a sticker on the windshield with the month/year it expires. On a motorcycle, the sticker goes on the plate.

    It's been 20 years since I was pulled over outside TX...I don't even know how that conversation will go in a state where folks carry copies of their reg.
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  2. doc4216

    doc4216 Chronic High Fiver

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    I just keep mine in my wallet but I like the idea of a plastic bag under the seat....maybe I will put a copy under there.
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  3. redxblack

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    I picked up a couple of those UPS packing slip sticker envelopes and stuck one on to the bottom of my seat. Registration and insurance fit just fine. I'd post a cost, but there wasn't one.
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  4. epylypzon

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    Here in Norway the registration document are 2 parts.

    Part 1 : MUST be on your vechile (i have it under my seat)
    Part 2 : "MUST" be stored home. This is the one who should be signed and delivired at the traffic station if you sell it.
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  5. Conman

    Conman Been here awhile

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    +1 on this. Do this for my ATVs. In States you have plates on off-road vehicles, you can put these labels on the back of the plate for safe keeping too.

    On my bikes with real tool boxes/pouches, I put a backup copy of my reg paperwork in a zip-lock sandwich bag and stuff it with the tools.

    I can't remember what magazine it was, but an article stated mount a color photo copy of their license plate and stuff their real tag in a backpack for safe keeping from damage.

    Cheers,
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  6. Snowy

    Snowy Long timer

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    All electronic in my state in Australia.

    No labels on the bike even. Just a number plate.

    You ride past a copy car with a camera and he knows within seconds if you're registered, if your license is current, if you have warrants, if you are a member or associate of a now "Criminal motorcycle gang", and has any notes on you about your attitude to police.

    They also take pictures of you that are stored for future cross matching and checks. Known criminals and their associates can therefore be tracked everywhere they go, with evidence. I know the cops here use cell phones to track persons of interest without warrant, because I've seen them do it.

    Static speed cameras have the capability of running the same sort of software because most are now effectively Web cameras. In the ones I installed and serviced they had 2 separate data networks coming off the camera. Rumour has it (from the guy who runs the company) that when he selling the system to roads and traffic, the Federal Police were present and asking about number plate and facial recognition software and the cameras capability.

    On a couple of rides I've passed general duties police cars and seen camera flashes. They are collecting data for future reference. Front on pictures so that at some future point if you blow through a front facing speed camera and it doesn't get your plate, they can match enough pictures of you and your bike to get a conviction.

    This is on the back of failed attempts by several states to get anti association laws passed. Queensland has been successful, and NSW had a 2 nd go at theirs. The Federal Police are now in on it.

    You get stopped at any time. You have to answer the questions or go to gaol. Minimum sentences. Automatic extra 15 years for any offence if you are a member or associate of a criminal gang etc. The cops are forcing people to strip on the roadside for searches and photos of tattoos. The cops want prior notification if you are riding in groups of 3 or more. All the States and territories are watching Queensland closely. They all want the same power. To combat what the statistics confirm is about 0.6% of crime on average across the country.
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  7. terraunbound

    terraunbound Been here awhile

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    Nice thinking - an under seat option as an additional backup. My choice spot is to carry registration and insurance inside a ziplock inside the jacket's key pocket. License also inside the jacket in a 'business card' case along with one cc and some cash in case I get stuck somewhere. Stopped carrying the AAA card as all they need is your name. Never been through a checkpoint in Colorado not Soviet Union aka Arizona.

    As for photo ops by the government, cash it in - we all have been photo'd many times and with image recognition software, all of our movements can be tracked with the appropriate level of effort. And then there is being pulled over by officer small-town. Paper is the best way to go.
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  8. Brown E

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    Put mine in a bag under the seat with that massive tool kit you get.
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  9. GPHusky250

    GPHusky250 Been here awhile

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    After wondering where to store registration paperwork and getting a lot of good ideas here, I noticed under the seat on the F800GSA is a place for the owner's manual. Surprise, surprise. So, I simply asked my wife for a sandwich bag, made a copy of my registration, driver's license, passport card and some quick instructions of how to adjust the Scott's Steering Damper, cut them to size, slipped them into the owners manual, slipped that into a ziplock sandwich bag and placed the whole thing where it's designed to go. Easy, Peasy.

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  10. Aanarchy

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    Dude, the piece of paper your sticker comes affixed to is your registration. It has VIN, vehicle description and owner name and address. That's what you're supposed to carry.

    I found out in Colorado when I got stopped by an officer trainee who was being observed by an officer in the patrol unit. He followed all of the textbook procedures. "Registration, officer? Waddya mean, 'registration'?"
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  11. redxblack

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    I dig the Bakunin avatar.
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  12. Aanarchy

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    Waddya know - an Akron Anarchist. :lol3
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  13. ferntree

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    Ziploc sandwich bag and some tape under the seat. Easy enough. I love spending money on my stuff, but cant justify spending money on something like that.
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  14. Schai

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    The BMW F800GS has a nice pocket under the seat where I put that stuff. I think that the pocket is due to a European requirement for a First Aid kit. Sargent seats also have the same pocket.

    However, on my family's dirt bikes, for many years, I've been taping the registration and insurance to the undersides of the license plates. I put a label on the license tag and the papers are heat sealed in plastic. Yeah, it takes a screwdriver to get at it, but it is guaranteed to be there. I don't think there is any law requiring instant access to the paperwork like there is for life jackets on boats. The last time I actually had to unbolt a license tag for an officer was ..... oh heck, he wasn't THAT curious.

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  15. tarheel rider

    tarheel rider Tight Lines

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    My Sargent seat has a compartment under the seat and a ziplock freezer bag works perfect!
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  16. sarathmenon

    sarathmenon Armchair Adventurer

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    What was wrong with the section where the optional anit theft alarm goes into? It's got enough space to fit a small toolbox, that's where I stash my registration and the owners manual. The owner's manual is pretty much useless for most things, but it's got most of the torque settings for most nuts and bolts you might take off on the road.
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  17. Krummemusic

    Krummemusic Adventure Dreamer

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    Original papers (registration, passport, insurance) are ALWAYS on my body
    * short trips: in a small bag that is hanging inside my t-shirt at my chest on a small thread around my neck or, at least, in a stash that is inside a zipped trouser pocket.
    * long trip: in a small/thin rucksack on my back, under my tshirt, along with the money
    I carry color copies of documents in my valet - with just the cash I need for the day. Valet usually in my trousers - NOT in my jacket. Jacket I occasionally take off during breaks (can get stolen), trousers I usually dont take off (at least when driving).
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  18. GPHusky250

    GPHusky250 Been here awhile

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    Was cleaning up my F800GSA after a trip down to Mexico, had the bike on a lift and noticed an access cover under the rear fender. Took the cover off and discovered yet another cool place to hide things. Had I not had the bike up on the lift, I doubt I would have ever noticed it.



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  19. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    awesome :huh
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  20. raider

    raider Big red dog

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    This is the "super secret storage compartment" - there's a whole thread dedicated to it here somewhere, it's probably not as discrete as you think it is ;)
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