Where's the line between motorcycle and cage?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Sparrowhawk, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. Sparrowhawk

    Sparrowhawk Long timer

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    Once you add a third wheel things get a little fuzzy. All are licensed as motorcycles in the U.S. and subject to motorcycle laws.

    Who would you wave at?

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  2. henshao

    henshao Bained

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    Can-Am's offend me from a logical perspective.

    All the protection of a motorcycle: Get rained on, baked, frozen, eat bugs, get thrown off or knocked off and go sliding or get crushed.

    All the size and performance of a car: can't lane split, can't park in tight spots, can't go off road, 13 second quarter mile, doesn't lean, doesn't wheelie.

    Some people are physically unable to handle two wheels. I respect them for riding whatever they can handle. The rest of you schmucks on Spyders don't make no damn sense to me so I don't wave to them.
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  3. Navy Chief

    Navy Chief Long timer

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    I am not sure, I generally wave back to anybody who waves to me but I almost never initiate the wave..

    But I do think I want a test ride/drive in a new slingshot.....:deal
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  4. bio388

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    I can respect the Ural. It has bike heritage and sidecar setups are almost as old as motorcycles themselves.

    Spyders on the other hand... I feel they have more in common with snowmobiles and ATVs than motorcycles. Only difference is they are fully street legal. I agree on 'ride what you can' part. I'm not against people having them, owning them, riding them (hell I'm curious enough to try), but at the end of the day they just don't feel like they belong in the same category as motorcycles, trikes, and sidecar setups. They're coming from a different heritage and appeal to a completely different demographic (I'm sure there is overlap, but on the whole, the people I see riding Spyders aren't the kind I expect grew up with two wheels under them).
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  5. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    There's two wheels and then there's everything else. Who I wave to is another topic. I still wave to jeeps sometimes:lol3
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  6. GypsyWriter

    GypsyWriter Yup, I'm a girl.

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    I always wave to Spyders, sidecars and trikes, but the Morgan and Slingshot just look too much like cars to me. Honestly, if I saw them coming, I wouldn't even know they were a 3-wheeled vehicle until they went past.

    Sweet rides, but for me not wave-worthy.
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  7. JStory

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    Condensed version: Spyder. All the disadvantages of a car combined with all the disadvantages of a motorcycle.

    Edit: It it has handlebars, I wave.

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  8. scfrank

    scfrank Old farts riding club.

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    I like that. Its easy.
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  9. majorhavoc

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    I wave to anything motorized on two wheels (three if it's a sidecar), Amish buggies (they wave back; always), VW Vanagon Syncros and Westies. And any kid at a lemonade stand.
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  10. millican

    millican Been here awhile

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    No Piaggio Apes?
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  11. BK

    BK Electron herder

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    Anybody that waves at me who isn't on big V-twin gets the middle finger. It's just how I roll.










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  12. tommysmothers

    tommysmothers Flamesuit equipped

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    Three wheeled vehicles seem to be the CrossFit of the motorsports world.

    Lots of haters, lots of diehard fans, and a huge chunk of people that don't give a damn.

    The more people out enjoying their drive in a lightweight vehicle, the better.
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  13. Rgconner

    Rgconner Long timer

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    The line is in your head, man.... in your head.
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  14. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

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    I'd wave to slingshots as well as to crossbows. I often wave at motorcycles when driving the Smart of my sister since I do wave at roadsters if I'm on the motorcycle.
    To me the cage begins when you're encaged. Topless is hybrid enough to feel connected to the driver.
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  15. Balootraveler

    Balootraveler Been here awhile

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    Handle bars, two or three wheels, sit on not in I wave. Some do not wave back so there is the second wave:ken
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  16. pinocono

    pinocono Fucking Pirate

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    Handlebars seems to be a good point to draw the line. Another might be if the operator and passenger sit side-by-side rather than fore-and-aft.

    I don't wave at anybody.

    Except under 50cc scooters. Freaks them out when somebody on a bike acknowledges them and they usually go into a death wobble. :wink:
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  17. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave I demand proof, sir.

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    Can Ams offend me as well, but for different reasons.

    I've thought about this for years. When I first saw Can Ams for sale, I didn't think too badly of them. When I first saw one on the road when on my bike, my stomach knotted up (hard), and has every single time I have seen one since then. I generally pass them sort of hunched over from the stomach pain.

    So, with a little more thought just now...

    I'll draw the line at one wheel in the front - yes, even for Reliant Robins. I will wave at them if I ever see one.

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    Either you're Okay with the dangerous sides of motorcycling, or you aren't a motorcyclist. One wheel in the front, while I've never thought of it before, is where I will draw the 'wave' line from here on. It's that distinction between dangerous and safe that have always made motorcyclists a different group from the dawn of motorcycles through to the 2000's.
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  18. DEDan

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    My wife totaled her Vulcan 2 summers ago. She got really lucky and was bruised from head to toe, but nothing broken and no internal injuries. A month later we got her a VStar 1300 tourer. She never felt comfortable on it. Add in some arthritis in her left knee, and she was worried about stopping and putting her left foot down, having her knee give out, and having the bike fall on her. She decided she needed a trike or had to give up riding.

    We checked out the typical HD clone trikes. None of them worked for her, they were big bikes, like 1900cc Yamaha Stratoliner types, and she couldn't reach the floorboards.

    In came the Can-Am. She had sat on them before and hated the riding position, but they were the "sport" models. We found a touring setup, and it's a completely different seating position. We bought it, and she's done about 3000 miles on it since June. Her passion for riding is back. She's happy, that makes me happy. It's got decent performance, it gets out into traffic as good as any cruiser does. The engine likes to rev. It handles great once you get used to it. She can keep up with me in the twisties much better than she ever could on her cruiser.

    I think when the day comes that I can't hold up 2 wheels anymore, I'll get one as well. The geometry is much better than a front wheel trike, it's got a ton of features that top of the line touring bikes have- traction control, ABS, some pretty sophisticated anti tip technology, heated grips, electronic cruise control, electronic adjustable windshield, nice built in tunes, adjustable suspension.

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  19. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

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    To me, the Can-Ams are just plain fugly and I have never yet seen someone riding one that didn't look like a knob. I have met and talked to several nice people riding them, but the second someone mounts one of those goofy snowmobiles-with-tires, they transform into a knob. Dunno why.

    Still, I'd rather ride a Can-Am than that HD trike. At least the two-wheels-in-front trikes can corner OK.

    That said, I'd much rather drive the Morgan or Slingshot than either the HD trike or the Can-Am.

    As far as waving goes, though... I wave at the "normal" trikes and sidecar rigs like they were motorcycles. I will return a wave from someone on a Can-Am, but I gave up on waving to them since they usually don't even get it. The Can-Am things seem to be ridden in general by people who would not otherwise be "riders," while the trikes and sidecars are often ridden by people who either also ride a two-wheeler or who used to but no longer can for one reason or another.

    I don't ever see anything like a Morgan or a Slingshot, though. I'd probably give a Morgan driver a thumbs up, 'cause those things are cool as all hell.
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  20. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave I demand proof, sir.

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    I've wondered if Can Ams are the new Subaru for lesbians in south Florida. :lol3
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