Which bike? Sherco? Scorpa? GG? ??

Discussion in 'Trials' started by biggziff, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    I've been looking for a Trials bike for a few months. A few Scorpas have slipped through my fingers, but not much else out there. I recently found an 09 Sherco 290 and a 2003 Sherco 290 that are within my budget. Is there a preference in manufacturer on these things? I've been told stay with 2000 and newer and get a tubular frame. I'm a babe in the woods when it comes to this.

    Any advice?

    thanks
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  2. heffergm

    heffergm Been here awhile

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    Doesn't really matter. All you want is the best maintained, newest thing your budget will allow.
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  3. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    How would I know how well it's been maintained? I've bought hundreds of used bikes in the past and it's always a crap shoot. The thing I'm most concerned about is parts availability. I can fix it when it breaks, but not if I can't get parts.
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  5. nlf224

    nlf224 n00b

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    Buy a sherco and you will never have to worry about getting parts. RYP has every part in stock for all year Sherco's.
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  6. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    Thanks. I'm going to look at an 09 this week.
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  7. lineaway

    lineaway Long timer

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    Buy a Beta and you won't need parts.
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  8. Norman Foley

    Norman Foley Devotee of the Husqvarna

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    Except fenders...
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  9. 10K

    10K Trail Runner

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    Quit flipping over and you won't need fenders.
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    2whlrcr gooligan

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    Buy a GG. Buying a few parts every now and then, is a small price to pay to ride the best!
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  11. grizCP

    grizCP DROC

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    I've had two Shercos now and both are squeaky. Squeaky fans and squeaky suspensions. They have both been great - so don't freak out if you test ride one and it's squeaky.

    Edit: PS - my Beta doesn't squeak.
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  12. Norman Foley

    Norman Foley Devotee of the Husqvarna

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    I haven't needed any on my Scorpa, but a buddy with a Beta has need two this year. I'll say one was at sub freezing temps though!
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  13. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    I've had GasGas, Sherco, and Beta experience. The squeaky is a Sherco thing and not a Sherco thing.

    Squeaky Sherco dogbones are from the steel-backed-Teflon bushings going dry from lack of maintenance. This condition is cured instantly with a squirt of oil on the dogbone's bushings, or better yet do grease maintenance. Poor maintenance on needle bearing dogbones may have them self destruct quietly, but the At least the Sherco gives you an 'alarm' :robin
    for doggy bone maintenance!

    Fan squeal is from a dried out bearing. There is no 'Sherco fan' per se, as these components are often shared (GasGas and Sherco fan motors are both Comex, right?).

    A squirt of oil between fan blade shroud and motor such that the shaft is wetted by oil, which wicks into the bushing, instantly stops fan squeal and keeps it away for months.

    BTW, by oil I mean something better than spray lubes. I have used synthetic ATF for ages. This is fallout from servicing transmissions. My trusty vintage Eagle brass pump can is always handy!
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    Bronco638 Nobody Home

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    In addition to what Chris said (^^^), inspect the swing arm bolt. There are bearings in the swing arm that cannot be serviced unless you remove that bolt. If you wait too long, that bolt, which is aluminum BTW, will corrode to the engine case or the bearing sleeves, or both. My dealer had to use an impact hammer to drive it out (destroying the bolt). Upon inspection, the factory never greased the bolt at all. So, if you can still drive the bolt out with a drift (which will not destroy the bolt), you're in luck.

    For those of you that have owned an XR250R, this is very similar to the "Dreaded Swing Arm Bolt" issue that seems to affect a lot of those Hondas.
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    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    Thanks for all the info. I look forward to falling off my new to me Trials bike. Norm, I'll have to look you up again. I've ridden with you at Logan's in the past...well, ridden on some of the diabolical single track you cooked up.
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  16. Huzband

    Huzband Team Dirt

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    Lots of good info, but it really just comes down to what color gear you like to wear. :johntm
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  17. Norman Foley

    Norman Foley Devotee of the Husqvarna

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    By all means get in touch. Ride at Logan farm again and Tryals Shop sometime soon!
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  18. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 46 years

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    Ditto. I found my uncoated aluminum 2017 Sherco swing arm bolt dry. No copper anti-seize, no grease. Not good!

    It's nice and slathered with grease now and thus protected from corrosion.

    Sherco uses steel inner races and sealed needle bearings in the swing arm. Very long lasting when we'll greased, but a dry bolt is a big invitation to future problems when water is trapped in the interface.

    GasGas steel-backed-Teflon bushings in the swing arm and the inner race is the hard coated aluminum swing arm bolt which is not prone to corrode if assembled dry.
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  19. MATTY

    MATTY BORDER RAIDER

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    I think sherco myself had no trouble apart from routine maintenance on it, Beta rev 3 has been ok but lost the spark stator was history. Replaced it been fine since but i think the sherco seems a little better on the electrics IMHO. Me i like the shercos.
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  20. lineaway

    lineaway Long timer

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    Pictures tell no lies. Beta's are our preffered bikes.

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