Which GPS

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Oz and Kiwi Land' started by 4Skins, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. 4Skins

    4Skins Gnarly Adventurer

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    I've been thinking about buying a GPS for a couple of years and will do so in a couple of months. I need advice on which one is best for me so consider the following.

    I go cross country where there are no roads.
    I wanna be able to program routes so I can follow them.
    I wanna record routes so I can see where I've been.
    I wanna be able to use it on motorcycle(s) and car and hand held.
    I live in New Zealand and I'd also like to use it to get around Europe/USA/UK.
    Do I need to buy maps for the unit? Can these be copied/ripped?
    The 76C looks good as does the 276C??? or the V??

    And, if I buy one onthe net from overseas will it have a useful basemap and will it work in NZ?
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  2. Leon H

    Leon H BMW Prima Donna

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    I have a Garmin eTrex Legend C and I love it as it does all that stuff, and it is only a bit bigger than a mobile phone (it apparently has the same "engine" as the GPSMAP60/76). It fits in my pocket when I am walking, and I can see it and use the buttons fine on the bike. If I was undertaking a big trip I would carry mapsource and my map sets on a memory stick to upload from a PC when I needed to.

    I like the small size of the eTrex as I use it for hiking, boats and car as well, but some guys do reckon it is too small. Try a few out and see what you reckon.

    Cheers''Leon
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  3. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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    Most hiking/marine units have routes and a reasonable tracklog (10,000 points)

    If you want 'turn by turn' routing for on-road then Garmin is probably the way to go.

    Yes, you need to buy maps. No, nobody has hacked them yet.

    A GPS will work anywhere in the world.
    The question is 'can you buy detailed maps for the areas that you intend to travel ?'
    The basemap is not a big issue.

    The GPSmap 276C has the sharpest screen and the most technical navigation features.
    However, it uses non-standard Garmin data cards.

    If you are prepared to accept a smaller screen and sacrifice voice prompts, but still get on-screen turn instructions then I would look at the GPSmap 60Cx or GPSmap 76Cx which should be available in NZ/Australia in the next 6-8 weeks.

    The first version of the NZ 'turn by turn' maps, City Navigator New Zealand, will be available this week but it has limited turn restriction information (Auckland, Wellington, Hamilton, Christchurch and Dunedin only). It is AU$379
    If it was me, I would just go with Brents 'version 3' road maps (without 'turn by turn') for AU$120 and see how the Garmin product matures.
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  4. Ozieadventure

    Ozieadventure BEEAAMMEERR

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    I just got my hands on a Garmin Quest 2, It is a neat little unit but unfortunatly it is not really what I wanted. It is only compatable with street directories like map source city nav, where I wanted to load any topo map on to be able to nav in the sticks. I guess before I spent the cash I should have done you have 4skins and that is a bit of home work. I am looking at returning it and getting a Etrex vista CX with a much larger capability.
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  5. HumanOne

    HumanOne shows Nomadic tendencies

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    Check this one out. :wink:

    Magellan Explorist 600

    My personal research and development dept. (TH) put me onto this one and it's a beauty. There is a bundle at the moment with this handheld and 'DiscoverAus Streets & Tracks Topo' SD card.

    It's very tricky. I can go on and on, but maybe check them out for yourself:

    Explorist 600 at www.magellangps.com

    SD card info at www.nextdestination.com.au

    maybe contact them to see if they do a card for NZ mapping.

    It's probably as easy as carrying separate SD cards for each of the countries you are planning to use it.

    When I went in to 'Cartographics' in Adelaide they had NATMAP (1:250 000 scale topographic map of Australia) running on a PC and with 'OziExplorer' (GPS Mapping Software) you can create your own maps and routes, etc, add and name landmarks, make comments and send them to your GPS. With 'OziExplorer' you can even scan any map, calibrate it, then plot your path, send it to your GPS. The NATMAP maps are detailed enough to plan some journeys on the big screen in the areas you are concentrating on and then plot and send them to the GPS and vice versa you can do a journey plotted on your GPS and send it to your map as an overlay to see where you went. Then you can print this off, etc.

    The 2005 NATMAP Raster Premium of Australia is a 2 x DVD set and takes about 9Gb :eek1 of hard drive space to load (tons of detail)

    Still trying to work it all out, but in theory it's great. Can't stop looking at all the maps, they are all in mosaic form so you can move the map from Sydney to Perth and check out all the detail in between.

    I'm sure you would have detailed maps of NZ in DVD format available from your local map store if not SD cards, and you're away! :clap

    Check them all out then buy one. They'll all help you get 'unlost'. But getting lost in the first place is most of the fun.

    Cheers
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  6. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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    OziExplorer will let you create waypoints, routes and tracklogs and copy them to and from your GPS and PC

    OziExplorer CANNOT transfer maps into any brand GPS
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  7. ozadvntr

    ozadvntr Planning that trip, again

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    Are the Magellan Platinum and Gold series good value for the $400 - $500 mark?
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  8. rjf

    rjf SBS's #1 fan in January

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    I take it we're talking the magellan Meridian ?

    I don't think either of them would be now that they're superceeded by the explorist. cetainly the gold isn't, I think that was close to the basic model.

    The platinum was the top of the range one feature wise, but no colour screen AFAIK.

    If you get one you would have probably want to get discover Aust. topo. another $400.

    If you are wanting mapping for going out bush a magellan with Disco Aust, is far better than a Garmin. if you want something for main roads / hiways and around built up areas the Garmins beat the magellans.

    Having said that, disco Aust is lame compared to having a pocket pc with ozi explorer hooked up to the gps. I have this hooked up to a magellan meridian color. I don't use the discover Aust in the gps, its always on one of the data screens. Disco Aust is there in case the pocket pc dies.

    I currently have the gps and pocket pc in touratech mounts on the roadbook holder on the KTM.

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    I'm about to put a roadbook and IMO up there, so I will be bolting the touratech mounts onto one of these on the h/bars. http://www.mo-tech.de/gps_elektronikhalter/

    You could order all the mounts from Aust suppliers now.

    If I had to buy my gps etc, now, I'd probably get the same ones I've got now, as I think its the best value. If I had more coin to spend I'd get a decent garmin(276c maybe) and connect that up to the pocket pc. (now that I'm confident that the vibes, dust and water aren't going to effect it due to the touratech mount and I don't need magellan / disco Aust as backup maps)

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    I had a thread on my set up some where. I'll post a link when I find it.

    http://http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104229
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  9. MookieBlaylock

    MookieBlaylock Long timer

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    ive been using a 276c w/touratech mount on both twin and single cylinder bikes and it has got to be one of the best gadgets ever. IMO a large screen is essential as is water resistance. The one drawback is that it's difficult using the buttons with a glove on, especially in motion. Beyond that spending an extra couple bills on a no compromise gps makes sense as it is a once every 5+- year purchase.
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  10. DRTim

    DRTim Adventurer

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    How about the GARMIN 2610?
    Got mine for the TL1000r, DR800s and car.
    The control unit on the left is custom made in Holland at www.gps.nl so no
    worries about damaging the lcd screen with dirty gloves.
    It's in Dutch but if you mail them I'm sure they will reply.
    Good luck.

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  11. DRTim

    DRTim Adventurer

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    Forgot to mention one thing. It doesn't have an internal battery and that
    sucks. You're gonna need a 12v connection or you could buy a loose
    battery (wich they sell as well).
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  12. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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  13. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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  14. GraemeWi

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    Howdy, I'm the author of the freebie NZ maps for Garmin in the first link. There is some search functionality enabled - POI and towns. No streets and intersections though. The main aim was to have a usable map on the 'grey market' GPS that are available in NZ.

    There is good news as well - there are two NZ topo map products for Garmin available - both commercial. I've got a set of one of them and they are pretty good! They look ok on my greyscale GPS's but would be better in colour.

    In answer to one of the initial questions on this thread:

    There are a couple of options as well - there are several commercial PC products with NZ topo maps designed exactly for this purpose - 'MapToaster' and 'Tumonz'

    There is another freebie project I'm working on which is a set of NZ maps for a program called 'GPSTrackMaker' which pretty much lets you overlay your tracks / waypoints etc on top of a background map, and interfaces with the GPS. Does some great tracklog analysis as well (I'll attach a small screen shot of it to give you some idea of what it looks like)

    I've not got topo detail in the general release map, but it's easy enough to add it in either from the LINZ website (free) or from other sources. A local mountain bike club is using it to map out the tracks in Riverhead forest and produce maps - which I guess is similar to what you are looking to do.

    The NZ detail in the Garmin basemaps is rubbish - even if it's a NZ version. The only issue is that if you buy a 'grey market' unit the local Garmin agent will not support it.

    The GPS will work fine - they are designed to work anywhere in the world, just feed it some local maps and it will be happy.

    Hope this is of some help!

    Cheers,

    Graeme
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  15. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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    Welcome Graeme, It's great to have someone on board who knows their GPS!

    Who makes those topomaps for the Garmins? A motorcycle/handheld size GPS with the 1:50000 & 1:250000 series on it is one of my dream gadgets.
    I've been playing with the Memory-Map NZ topo & streetmaps on my laptop in the 4x4, it'd be great to have that sorta thing for tramping, motorcycling & mountainbiking as well.

    Keep up the good work!

    Cheers
    Clint
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  16. K Slider

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    Hi 4Skins detail maps must be available as i used one for search and rescue in the Kaimanawas which had good track details and topography.
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  17. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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  18. a_k_nicholls

    a_k_nicholls Been here awhile

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    Hey Burnie,
    How easy are the smaller screens to read while on the move & with the light on them. The reason I ask this is because my Magellan colour is almost impossible to read with direct sunlight on it.

    Cheers
    Andrew :thumb
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  19. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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    The Garmin GPSmap 60C/76C/x and the Magellan eXplorist 500/600/XL are true sunlight readable screens.

    Nothing like the Meridian color that washes out in bright sunlight.

    Frank is looking at a GPSmap 60Cx, ask him
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  20. a_k_nicholls

    a_k_nicholls Been here awhile

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    Thanks for that Burnie, That was my only real concern I will talk with Frank & see how he went with the 60cx

    Cheers
    Andrew :thumb
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