Which is a Better GPS: the Garmin Montana or a Smartphone?

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  1. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    As a gps, that is.


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  2. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I know, a phone can do so much more...


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  3. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    But I have a phone, and I keep it in my pocket.


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  4. HBSURFDAD

    HBSURFDAD Oops, Sorry

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    I use both, my iPhone 6+ is great with Waze on the road and PEpro as back up on the dirt for my Big bike. My Montana for my enduro riding I do, and the ability to get tracks at rides.

    The Montana really is better in the wild stuff. The only personal question is "do you need/want it versus the cost?". For me the answer is YES after using just my phone for over a year.

    If I only could have 1, it would be the phone, but this is a Hobby, so I have both! And I am not willing to give up either one.
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  5. CavReconSGT

    CavReconSGT Just the right amount of evil.

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    I have both. I use my phone with Waze in my truck 80% of the time. I sometimes use a GPS. On my motorcycle I use the Montana, everyday, all the time. It is just more convenient and set up specifically to do this. And it has the maps loaded that I need for any trip, including James bay or the Trans Labrador road and setup with lots of weigh-point that I might need. Its easy to see, waterproof and locked so me forgetting it or having it stolen are less likely.

    KR
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  6. NorskieRider

    NorskieRider Been here awhile

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    Smartphone mounted on the handlebars (perfect squeeze). Plenty of threads on it - search for 'kyocera'
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  7. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    IMHO the Montana is a better gps than a smartphone using any of the apps I have tried. But the smartphone is a better all around electronics device, duh.
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  8. 250senuf

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  9. DaMonk45

    DaMonk45 I B Da Monk

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    In what way is your Montana better?
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  10. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    I can't begin to count the ways.
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  11. HBSURFDAD

    HBSURFDAD Oops, Sorry

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    Montana pluses FOR ME:

    I don't worry about breaking it.
    Great screen
    All events I do have the quick garmin cable download
    Bluetooth sharing of tracks
    Ridding on one track while looking at another
    Easy route/track creation

    Just quick off the top of my head. This was worth the additional purchase FOR ME.

    I know I did something wrong with something according to everybody else on here, but nobody told you to do what I did. Remember everybody, half the people on here think you are genius, the other half think you are an idiot.
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  12. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    Ruggedized smartphone.

    Want to watch me go after a couple of my devices with my car keys?
    File transfer by mobile data, wifi, bluetooth, NFC etc.
    Sharing by the above, in fact I have two apps that show others where I am
    Tracks and displays are equal depending on mode app.

    Track creation on device on the computer is wildly simplified, no basecamp, and no cables.

    Oh yeah, and free maps. No getting gouged for $150 to get new maps.
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  13. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    Both will work fine as a GPS
    A rugged Smartpone can do more and for alot less $$

    -Montana
    Pros:
    -Able to work with AA batterys
    -Lot's of mount's and powerd mounts available
    -Glovefriendly display
    Cons:
    -Price
    -Need to rely on computer to transfer/make tracks


    Anything can be done on a smartphone and the disadvantages can be overcome with touchscreen compatable gloves or stylus, a powerbank or extra batterys etc. It all comes down to you considering if it's worth a bit of time to source the right mount and power connection , the right phone and the right app for you and your intended use

    If you come from a another Garmin/basecamp world the learning curve will be steep in for the smartphone option, but starting from scrtach, the Smartphone is easer to learn IMHO

    You can get a good setup with a smartphone for 150$ And then it still is a smartphone with all the advantages over a standalone
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  14. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    I think I spent $80 on the Experia 6" screen, expandable memory, IP67 weatherproofing. HOWEVER, that is a hardwired, powered mount that uses the media dock pins, so no USB which was like $90. No complaints with that one, runs rain or shine, and easily keeps up with the demands of running that big screen at highest brighteness, while running bluetooth voice and music.

    Next project is a similar set-up for my Super Duke using an Experia Z3 for the smaller form-factor, that is just too large for the naked, there isn't the dash space.
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  15. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Got rid of my POS Montana years ago and switched to a Galaxy S5 for a stand alone GPS. Never looked back.
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  16. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    Different strokes.

    My Montana and Samsung tablet have comparable problems but fixing the Montana is as simple as turning it off and on. The Samsung occasionally shuts down with 50% battery and it won't work again until recharge to 100% (4 or 5 hours at the rate it charges). I haven't had the Motorola phone long enough to know its oddities.
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  17. Got_Carbs?

    Got_Carbs? Adventurer

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    How old was that tablet? Sounds like battery degradation. This is the problem with all manufacturers moving to non-removable batteries, have to upgrade often, sooner.
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  18. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    It's 2 years old now, but it's done this since it was 6 months old. The battery is usually fine for discharge to 30% or lower, but about once a month it will "panic" at 50% and say there's no charge left. That sounds like software to me, not a weak battery.
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  19. BigFatAl

    BigFatAl Been here awhile

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    I put away all my Garmins and use a dedicated Android for my GPS ( no service plan) and my iPhone 7s as a backup .
    Never going back !!!
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  20. DaMonk45

    DaMonk45 I B Da Monk

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    Once you make the jump to a droid and figure out which app to use and when to use it. its pretty hard to go back.
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