White helmet?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Leafaye, May 2, 2012.

  1. jbhawley

    jbhawley WTF- Gus?

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    You can do alot with retro-reflective stickers if you use your imagination and get creative. White helmet for daytime visibility and reflectives for night time. Anything to make the blue-hairs, tennie-bobbers, or soccer-moms see us...
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  2. nomiles

    nomiles Sledge-o-matic

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    White shows up better than any other color including silver and Hi-viz, especially at night.
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  3. univibe88

    univibe88 Slidell4Life

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    I like your sticker "art" John :clap
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  4. Wuwei

    Wuwei Long timer

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    I find an advantage of a white helmet is that it very quickly shows bug splatter, black streaks, and general wear so it is less of a theft magnet. I personally don't care what it looks like as long as it keeps me comfortable, provides good visibility for my eyes and those of others, and protects me if I ever crash. Not worrying about having it stolen is a bonus.
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  5. Tsotsie

    Tsotsie Semi-reformed Tsotsi

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    Those numbers in that list dont look right. How can the temp on the black go from 90 to 101 to 96 to 108 and the white 85 to 101.5, 95.5 to 108 etc?

    Time:______Black Helmet Temp_____White Helmet Temp

    2:45PM______Outer Shell: 81.5________Outer Shell: 81.5
    2:50PM______Outer Shell: 144.0_______Outer Shell: 107.0
    3:00PM______Outer Shell: 154.0_______Outer Shell: 106.5
    3:20PM______Outer Shell: 149.0_______Outer Shell: 108.5
    3:40PM______Outer Shell: 155.0_______Outer Shell: 113.0
    4:00PM______Outer Shell: 155.0_______Outer Shell: 114.0

    Time:______Black Helmet Temp_____White Helmet Temp

    2:45PM______Inner Shell: 90.0_________Inner Shell: 85.0
    2:50PM______Inner Shell: 101.0________Inner Shell: 101.5
    3:00PM______Inner Shell: 96.0_________Inner Shell: 95.5
    3:20PM______Inner Shell: 108.0________Inner Shell: 108.0
    3:40PM______Inner Shell: 110.0________Inner Shell: 109.5
    4:00PM______Inner Shell: 111.0________Inner Shell: 110.5
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  6. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    Long story short... After wearing hi-viz orange helmets for 14 years, my next helmet will be a solid white one.

    I work in research and one of the things I just had to do was gather studies and papers on motorcycle conspicuity.
    And to summarize about 20 papers that I read... These were papers and lit reviews from the last 15 years of global first world studies that have been done on motorcycle wrecks, conspicuity and causation.

    Elevated levels of conspicuity on the part of the rider may lessen their chance of a violation of right away by as much as a third.

    Here's the deal from the studies that I just got done going through...

    When it comes to conspicuity the biggest effect is solid blocks of color that contrast with what is surrounding them.

    So a white helmet ridden where the it's a whole lot of light colored empty roads during the middle of the day. Think the outskirts of Phoenix in June)

    It's not so good.

    A white helmet, worn in a mixed urban environment day or night is more visible then a black or med to dark gray helmet.
    And it gives up little to yellows and yellow green. Think Providence

    Retroreflective tape has shown to have mixed results in a wide range of studies, the hypothesis is that the headlights need to be in pretty much a straight angle to the helmet. So the halo brand style band around the bottom is more effective then a small patch of stuff to each side or just the rear of the helmet. this is due to it's effectiveness regardless of the cars position to you.

    Yellow, and lime yellow are also listed high in the daytime conspicuity studies, but their effectiveness tapers off at night.
    Where white stays slightly more visible at night.

    Blue, Reds, Oranges (what I've worn for years) are less noticeable in evenings and comprimised weather or environmental situations, like rain, fog, or smoke or dust and in darker background environments are not as effective as lighter colors. However in lighter back ground environments they are more effective then white or yellows.

    Fluorescent colors are especially effective morning and dusk or in overcast situations. But you loose the effectiveness of the UV reactive pigments when there's no UV.

    So there's no clear cut answer. But my take away was that white is the most visible helmet color in the widest range of urban and suburban environments. Day, Night, For, Dust, Dusk, in city or in the suburbs...

    After looking at the studies, and after wearing hi-viz gear for 5 years and a hi-viz orange helmet for 14 years.

    My next helmet will be a white one, and I will add a 1" tall band of retroreflective material around the bottom of the helmet
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  7. ADVWannabee

    ADVWannabee Been here awhile

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    If I recall correctly, the Hurt report shows that light color helmets show a reduced accident rate for people pulling in front of you. I have a silver helmet for that reason, figuring it reflects light more. But I think I may switch to white for my next helmet.

    As for reflectorization, I would think that would work pretty well. When I was in Canada last year, my buddy was in front of me at night and the reflective piping on his jacket lit up extremely well even when he was way out in front of me.
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  8. bigsnowdog

    bigsnowdog Sylvan Dweller

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    This is a timely topic. I am about to buy a new helmet. My current one is white, and I chose it primarily for temperature. I see Schuberth sells a hi-viz yellow, I believe it is, and have also come out with a hi-viz orange. In the past when I have researched this, white came out as highly visible. I believe that will still be my choice.
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  9. Phil Y

    Phil Y Adventurer

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    Solo LEOs wear white helmets here so white is definitely the most "visible." Neon greens and yellows are becoming common among road crews,maintenance workers, etc., which, I believe, detracts from the "seeability" for most cagers. I don't mind being mistaken for a cycle cop, even if only for a moment.:D
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  10. fishwich

    fishwich El Borbah

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    I wear a plain white Shoei RF1000 because it was a LOT cheaper than the others. At least $75. Riders out here want snakes, skulls and flaming Virgin Marys on their lid.
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  11. SgtDuster

    SgtDuster Long timer

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    God invented clouds? :hmmmmm
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  12. nytrashman

    nytrashman old and in the way

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    decided to get a new helmet last week and after years of riding with silver helmets i went with white this time. i heard that next to high viz white is the most noticeable color. only time will tell if that is true or not.

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