Who has done an IBA run ?

Discussion in 'Alaska' started by nuttynu, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. AK650

    AK650 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2013
    Oddometer:
    683
    Location:
    Alaska
    :)

    I definitely plan to do a HR trip on the KLR. Have driven it at least a hundred times in a pickup, and have always wanted to do it on two wheels. Part of the reson behind buying the KLR, actually.

    Jeff
    #81
  2. Full Power

    Full Power Long timer

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,674
    Location:
    Homer, Alaska
    Since we are in the buns of steel thread, I should mention my July 4th 2010 Dalton-DASH.
    Homer to Deadhorse. 1100 miles in 30 hours.
    10 hour lay-over at Camp Deadhorse, (breakfast, shower, nap)
    Deadhorse to Homer return trip in 28 hours.
    .
    . Total 2200 miles, elapsed time 68 hours.

    KLR used only half a quart of oil.
    (The other half I poured on the drive chain)
    #82
  3. AK650

    AK650 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2013
    Oddometer:
    683
    Location:
    Alaska
    Damn, what a run! :thumb

    Jeff
    #83
  4. Full Power

    Full Power Long timer

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,674
    Location:
    Homer, Alaska
    It was epic.
    Ordered a Corbin saddle for the KLR the NEXT day.
    #84
  5. nuttynu

    nuttynu NuttyNu Rider

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Oddometer:
    1,068
    Location:
    Anchorage, Alaska
    This was a fail this summer, but there's still time ! Has anyone still thought of doing this ??

    :clap
    #85
  6. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    For several years now there has been an annual Memorial Ride to honor fallen riders. The original plan was to have rider in all 50 states complete an Iron Butt ride on the same day, in late October. While I was too busy to attempt it last year, the year before, after receiving special dispensation to move the date earlier in the month, I started one from Glennallen via Valdez, but snow, sleet, and hail through Thompson Pass, with worse forecast for roads farther north, convinced me to put it off for another week. The next week, weather was a bit chilly but clear, with the thermometer reading 8°F as I passed through Slana, and clear up to 25° when I gassed up in Tok. The 60 miles of rutted ice on the road into, and out of, Tok was no problem on the Wing, but as I headed out of Fairbanks down the Parks Hwy a veritable blizzard had me wondering if I really wanted to risk being trapped in Nenana, so I turned around about 15 miles out and headed back east. The ride down through Isabel Pass was on nice, dry roads. There was the temptation to run into Anchorage and back out, as I had completed over 635 miles by the time I arrived back in Glennallen, but I was still recovering from a bout of shingles, so decided to call it off.

    The organizer of the ride - Howard Entman - agrees that Alaska should be a special case, so doing the ride in September will qualify as completing it on schedule. Therefore, I'm planning on doing it sometime around the middle of the month - weather permitting. Rain and cold we can handle. Riding in snowstorms, surrounded by cages whose drivers have forgotten everything they ever learned about driving on slick roads, is suicidal so we avoid that.

    All that to say - yep, I'm planning on doing another SS1K before winter sets in, and welcome company.
    #86
  7. AKmud

    AKmud Muddy Gruver

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,019
    Location:
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Give us some warning Jack, I would like to give it a shot too.
    #87
  8. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    Will do. Hoping to get my aux tank fixed first, but things have been hectic, with winter drawing relentlessly closer.

    For most riders I would imagine a weekend ride would fit their schedule best. How 'bout it, for anyone who might be thinking of this?
    #88
  9. simestd

    simestd Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Oddometer:
    427
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    I'm interested but not sure I can get a pass. Watching the thread and crossing my fingers!
    #89
  10. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    Just an informal poll - among those who might do a 1K ride in September:
    1. What day(s) of the week work best for you?

    2. Where do you live/want to begin your ride?

    3. Do you like starting early in the morning or closer to noon?

    For riders starting and ending in Anchorage, a gas station on Muldoon near the Glenn Hwy is pretty good in that you won't have to fight city traffic before getting on the highway. Farther toward the city center won't help because it won't add enough miles to make a difference in the overall route. An Anchorage rider starting on Muldoon could finish the ride in Palmer with around 1070 miles - a comfortable safety margin.

    While Isabel Pass (between Glennallen and Delta Jct) looks to be a good alternative if sufficient miles are found elsewhere, weather through there can be good... or terrible. The long way around, via Tok, is generally a safer bet. In any case, a run to Valdez and back up will be required to provide the necessary 1000+ miles.

    The weather is going to be more and more of an issue as summer draws to a close. Average temperature for the circle route right now would be around 50°. That is, if it hits 65° during the day, you can expect to find yourself riding at 35° late that same night. Snow has come w-a-a-y down on the Wrangells in the past two days.

    Gotta hurry up before it's time to park the bikes again! :ricky
    #90
  11. simestd

    simestd Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Oddometer:
    427
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    1. Weekends, but would be willing to take a personal day if we got a good weather window.

    2. Anchorage, would likely start and end at the Chevron either across from AK Leather or the one on 6th just west of Merrill field.

    3. I'd rather start at or near 1st light, but it depends on the route. If possible, would prefer to travel more heavily trafficked road stretches at night so someone else can catch the moose!

    What is the max fuel leg on the route you're thinking Jack? My DR has the stock tank, which is worth about 100 - 120 miles and I need to figure out how much extra to strap on the back.
    #91
  12. AKmud

    AKmud Muddy Gruver

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,019
    Location:
    Wasilla, Alaska
    SSM off, Wasilla, time doesn't really matter to me.
    #92
  13. THogland

    THogland Back in Alaska!

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2011
    Oddometer:
    76
    Location:
    Wasilla-ish, Alaska
    I'd be interested, depending on the timing. I'm off weekends and in Wasilla, would start either here or in Palmer depending on which way the circle runs. I'd think an earlier start is better - get as many of the "tired hours" in while it's still light.

    I've got about 150 miles of range realistically, would probably bring 3 extra gallons to almost double that. (The V-star 1300 should have 4.5 gal useable @ 40mpg, but the stupid filler neck insert takes almost a gallon off of that...)
    #93
  14. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    A fairly early start seems to be okay with most, so far. That is what I prefer as well. One of my first 1K days started in Glennallen at 3:15 AM. At 6:30 AM I met up with occasional inmate Warp 7 at a gas station on Muldoon Rd, and we headed for Fairbanks, doing the circle in a clockwise direction. For that ride we rode down to the border on the Alcan and had customs agents witness that corner. However, I believe it is simpler to run down to Valdez and get a gas receipt. And that was pre-9/11. Not sure how willing customs would be to oblige us today. On that ride, with several delays en route, I was back home around 10:30 or 11:00. Will got home a bit after midnight.

    For this ride I expect to skip Anchorage, go through Tok, and make the trip down to Valdez and back to Glennallen to put about 1040 miles behind the Wing. A rider starting and ending in Anchorage could avoid Tok and ride through Isabel Pass while starting and ending at Muldoon to make just a hair over 1000 miles - with a very small cushion. Or start and end a little closer to the center of the city (so long as the start and finish receipts show a good street address) to get around 1020 miles and have a comfortable cushion.

    Letting Streets & Trips make the calculations, if I left Glennallen at 4:00 AM, I should reach Wasilla around 6:45, Fairbanks around 1:00 PM, Tok 4:30 PM, Valdez at 9ish, and back in Glennallen by 11:15 PM.

    If a meet-up at a gas station in Wasilla around 6:45 sounds okay (that would mean Wasilla riders wouldn't get back home 'til around 2:00 AM) we could aim for that. Or... I could leave Glennallen a bit earlier - say around 3:00 AM again. Dang! That sounds cold already. :vardy

    What y'all think?
    #94
  15. simestd

    simestd Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Oddometer:
    427
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    So from Anchorage, this would basically be the reverse of the route we took in 2011 for the "iditabutt" SS1000 ride. Google Maps puts the route at 1031 miles if we start and end at the Chevron across from AK Leather. Leaving Anchorage in time to meet you at say the Wasilla Fred Meyer around 6:45 AM sounds great to me. I need to get on the phone and see about getting a new rear tire for the DR ASAP. What dates are you thinking of Jack?
    #95
  16. simestd

    simestd Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Oddometer:
    427
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    If we meet Alcan Rider at the Wasilla Fred Meyer @ 06:45, using Google Maps for enroute times and allowing 5 minutes per fuel stop would have an Anchorage rider leaving the Spenard Chevron at approximately 05:45 AM and returning around 2 AM. On that schedule, we would run out of daylight coming out of Valdez on the home stretch nearing Glennallen.

    Thanks to Barb at AK Leather, I should have a new Heidenau for the rear by mid week or so. Next weekend is looking good for me and I have Fri-Sun off.
    #96
  17. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    Correct.

    Checking both WUnderground and Accuweather, it looks like next weekend - Sep 7 & 8 - might be as good as we're likely to get for a while. Extended forecast looks colder and grayer for the following weekend.
    #97
  18. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    With your rather limited range, I'd plan on fueling in Wasilla, then again at Trapper Creek, Cantwell, Healy or Nenana, Fairbanks. Don't know if Meiers Lake has gas, but I'll give them a call to find out. That is only about 15 miles south of Paxson, or 90 miles from Delta Jct.. You might only have to pour gas in between Glennallen and Palmer then. Most of the time it takes as long to add gas from a can as it does to pull in and fill up at a station.

    You'll want to keep a close eye on the weather for Delta Jct and Paxson as the trip approaches. Isabel Pass can be iffy at times. You might have to take the long way through Tok. If you come down through the Pass you'll be in Valdez almost 2 hours ahead of riders routing through Tok.

    It looks like it might be better if I left Glennallen at 3ish in the AM to give everyone else the opportunity to get home a little earlier the next morning. That would put me in Wasilla around 6 AM. You could leave the Chevron at Minnesota and Spenard at 5 and get to the Wasilla Chevron around 6 also. We should hit Fairbanks around noon and I, for one, would like to sit down for a quick meal and a break - either there or on down the road at North Pole. It's important to keep eating and stay hydrated on a long ride.

    IF you were ahead of via-Tok riders, you'd be back up in Glennallen around the time it's getting dark enough to need headlights on a clear night. Then your worst (most dangerous, moose-wise) stretch would be from Glennallen to Sutton.

    Something you might consider: If you had to go through Tok, you could avoid Valdez by going back through Wasilla to Willow, then down to Girdwood before ending at your starting point on Spenard Rd. Not sure which would be the worst. :hmmmmm

    Weather-wise, next Saturday (9/7) looks relatively good, with 50% chance of rain in Valdez (of course). How does Saturday early morning to Sunday early morning look for everyone? :ear My aux tank won't be repaired by then, but still have around 240 mile range so I can get by.

    For the remainder of the week I'll be away from internet access, but will try to take the laptop to a neighbor's on Tuesday or Wednesday to check for responses. You can also get me at two-5-9-4 zero 7 zero.

    Maybe we can make this happen. Or... I'll do a ride report of my solo ride when I get back. :lol3
    #98
  19. simestd

    simestd Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Oddometer:
    427
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    Sage advice, I won't be passing up too many opportunities to fuel up. I will also be carrying at least an extra gallon or possibly two. I am planning on adding a 4.9 gallon tank to the DR but it's not in the cards for this trip.

    6 AM at the Wasilla Chevron is fine with me. If we're still together when we hit Fairbanks, I would welcome a longer break and a meal. Since you know all the good road food spots, where would you prefer to stop?

    If possible, I'd rather finish up Thompson pass before it gets dark, so I'm hoping to bypass Tok. Since Glennallen to Palmer is generally open country, I'm a bit less worried about moose in the dark than I would be in more densely forested spots.

    More excellent advice, I'll have that route prepared as an alternate just in case. Thanks!

    At this point, early Saturday morning looks good to me as well. Unless something changes, I'll plan on being at the Wasilla Chevron by 6 AM. My cell is two four two four six five six.
    #99
  20. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,177
    Location:
    Over the rear wheel
    It'll be a Saturday, so locals won't be on their normal schedule. We could go into Fairbanks on Airport Way and check out Denny's (I know, but it's usually pretty quick - and I refuse to lower my standards to the level of Mickey D's) or we could go on down to North Pole and sit down at Wendy's or Subway... maybe even at the Chinese restaurant in that vicinity if they aren't too busy.

    Guess you haven't made that trip as many thousands of times as I have. :lol3 From around Mile 93 on down to around Mile 70 is a moose corridor, with brush growing very close to the road. It's not a place to get in a hurry, day or night. Saw a moose's back just disappearing off the road not far in front of me around Mile 90 last Wednesday night, and there was a pair of Lightforce lights guiding my way. After over 50 years of traveling the Glenn Hwy, I have a pretty good idea where to watch closely, and yet still get surprised now and then. It's really more a matter of what sorts of vegetation you're passing through. Is it desirable moose fodder? Or just spruce trees?
    Now let's see what the others have to say. Maybe we'll have a foursome.

    FORE! :rofl