Who prefers the AC over the LC & why?

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mkletecka, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. mkletecka

    mkletecka Been here awhile

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    The other day I "briefly" test rode the new LC GS. I liked it, but I also like the previous AC version it replaced. Without going into what I liked/didn't like, Id like to hear from other GS riders regarding there feelings about the two?
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  2. atg

    atg Been here awhile

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    My LC is my fourth GS 1200. I liked it best from all the previous ones:

    2005 standard, 2006 premium, 2011 premium

    The main reasons, in no particular order, are:

    Stronger engine
    Greater confort
    Better windshield protection
    Easier adjustment on windshield height
    Better instrument cluster
    Better paint finish
    Lighter feeling
    Riding modes
    Better ESA
    Better lights (LED)
    Nicer styling
    Better luggage and better way of attachment to the bike
    Better gas mileage
    Easier seat adjustment and ease of fitting it to the bike
    Cruise control
    Switch cluster
    GPS mount
    Lighter clutch pull

    What I prefere on the previous model:

    Clutch
    Original turn signal switch
    Engine sound
    Prooven reliability
    Greater under seat space for tools
    Greater variety of non original accessories
    Side stand position

    Definetelly would not go back !

    Andre
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  3. JM

    JM Been here awhile

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    Have you watched the Touratech video where they compare the 2013 GSA and the 2013 LC? I went with the GSA for the low end grunt off road. The LC has many advantages over the GSA in the bells and whistles department but being able to control it off road was a concern of mine. I think the twitcher throttle control would be a real problem for me bouncing around trying to go slow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMaGYBbhF70
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  4. kencc

    kencc Been here awhile

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    Very well done biggest complaint for me is the turn signals
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  5. TuefelHunden

    TuefelHunden Been here awhile

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    I wanted the GS because it was simple to operate and maintain. IMO the LC doesn't fit into the "simple" category. The more electronics the more things fail. Wait until you have to pay for parts on the LC. I also like having the right oil to do the right job. When it comes to performance, the real difference is the rider not AC or LC.
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  6. Desert Skies

    Desert Skies One brick shy...

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    I prefer my AC for one reason. It's payed for. :1drink
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  7. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    I love AC. I am a naturally hot person by nature.

    Wait, AC. is that a NEW name for AirHead, or OilHead, or Hexhead or Camhead? :scratch

    Jim :brow
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  8. Gillus

    Gillus High Desert Rat

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    Mine 2
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  9. bmwrider1946

    bmwrider1946 Young Old Fart

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    The best off road rider I know bought the LC and he says it actually makes him a better rider. Really likes the selectable ride modes for off road.
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  10. sdpc2

    sdpc2 Just another Rally Rat

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    Just about any of the AC's!!! To me the LC feels more like a jap bike. No soul, too much plastic
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  11. pielet97

    pielet97 Adventurer

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    As a group, are we really that slow that we can't realize the aforementioned "AC" models are not air cooled, but liquid (oil) cooled???
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  12. JM

    JM Been here awhile

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    What percentage of the cooling is done by air, oil or the new liquid?

    Realistically they are all air cooled aren't they? Bigger picture, what cools the oil or the new liquid?

    :slurp
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  13. Bill-66

    Bill-66 Hencho in Kansas

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    Hexhead please..at least the horn doesn't stick..and the blinkers work regardless of ambient temperature..:lol3
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  14. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    Nah, that's bollocks:lol3
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  15. /dev/null

    /dev/null Been here awhile

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    I agree with most everything you said, and currently think I'll jump on the bandwagon with an LC GSA in 2014/15-ish.

    Except for this:
    It seems like every year the GS cluster gets worse, and with the 2013, they really pulled out all the stops. At the current rate of "improvement", by 2025, the tach will have become so small as to form a singularity, sucking in the Earth, moon, and most of the adjacent planets, ending all life as we know it.

    They seriously need to abandon the analog speedo and go to the near universal standard of digital speedo, analog tach.
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  16. Desert2202

    Desert2202 Been here awhile

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    I'm calling mine an Oily Cam Head and I love it :evil

    No water for me thanks, no radiators to crush, no hoses to blow, no water pump to leak or fail.

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  17. dwestly

    dwestly Refuses to Grow Up!

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    I just refuse to be a first model year guinea pig anymore. Besides, word is the new LC GSA is going to be awesome, so I'm on hold until its released! :D
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  18. iride4u

    iride4u Been here awhile

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    The LC is my third BMW and also my third dual sport bike. My first BMW was a LT that has been replaced with a GTL that I use for work. In the last year I have gone through a KLR not enough top end, A Triumph Tiger XC 800 too much heat and poor suspension, and now the LC.
    While those who are coming from older GSs are not happy about the turn signal controls, I want the cockpits as close as possible when in an emergency. I do not want to have to think I want to work by reflex.
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  19. hammick

    hammick Long timer

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    I have owned '07, '09 and '11 GSAs. Never owned a GS until my '13 GS.

    The new GS is a better handling and more powerful bike than my previous GSAs. I really like the adaptive suspension. It really make the ESA option worth the price.

    The led headlight is great and the cruise control is from Heaven.

    I was very frustrated with the problems my '12 K1600GT (hard left pull, clunky and lots of drive slop) had so I sold it and decided to beta test the GSW. So far so good with 2k miles. The problems with the K1600GT were obvious within a couple hundred miles.

    If the new GSA has similar agility and low COG like the GS I will look at getting a '15 model.
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  20. DiamondLie

    DiamondLie Banned

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    Do the instrument clusters on the new LC machines 'melt' like the old ones did? :cry I have had mine replaced on my 2010 camhead twice under warranty because the windshield can magnify the suns rays enough to melt the plastic bezel. NOT happy with that particular piece of German engineering!!
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