Who's running the new MotoZ Tractionator Adventure tires on their LC8?

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  1. WAGmore01

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    Interested to hear about how long the rear will last on a big bike. Also, there have been some concerns about balancing issues. Does the ride quality suffer at a certain mileage? (And how will proper PSI affect that)

    What PSI is everyone running in different conditions?

    I do tend to focus my rides towards as much dirt as possible, but I would like to be able to enjoy these on many paved miles. Biggest concerns would be how well they perform in mud, loose rocky climbs, but also interested to hear about any odd behavior while on paved twisties.... will be purchasing asap so it should be the most current tire. How do I tell? (Last date for change?)

    So far my experience with rear tires on my F800 has been
    1) half worn K60 (horrible in mud and horrible balance at high mileage) replaced after 8-9000 miles on tire?
    2) Shinko 805 (first more aggressive tire, loved it but replaced it when it At about 2500 miles went flat at 85 MPH for peace of mind)
    3) about 700-1000 miles so far on a TKC 80 and can tell it's not going to last long.

    (My current front tire is a 21" TKC 80 with about 3500 miles on it)

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  2. SicSemperTyrannis70

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    Gonna give these a try and see how they do before the Adventure Rally in Gunnison, CO this July.
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  3. Barakaiki

    Barakaiki Been here awhile

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    I've enjoyed them--on my 3rd set and the rear does everything I want on my 800GSA: hooks up in the dirt, confident on the blacktop (sticky out of the gate) and long lasting. Having tried everything (TKC, Karoo, Wilds) the TA rear is the only tire I'll put on for now. Of course everything is preference, but I love this tire.


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  4. outbactktm

    outbactktm Bullrun Bison

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    What tire are you going to run on the front ?
    I have one to mount on the rear have not decided went to pair it with
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  5. jdubb75

    jdubb75 Vicarious Adventurer

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    I'm using the Scorpion Rally Pro up front on my Adv and really like it as long as I mind my speed on pavement in the twisties.

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  6. MiniNL

    MiniNL Dutchie in the US

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    That front works great, but will wear funny quickly if you brake hard on the pavement. I wore about half of the back half of the knob of bedding in my new brakes. I should have mounted my conti TA2 just for that purpose, lol. Next time. Gives plenty of grip on the dirt and does well on the road. I've got it matched to a Tractionator Desert on the rear and that'll get sketchy on pavement turns before the front does
  7. TooBadBrad

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  8. TooBadBrad

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    Here is one way to handle balance issues. Balance the wheel without the tire, and use balance beads to balance the tire. This way you never change the weights and the tire will re-balance as it wears.
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  9. outbactktm

    outbactktm Bullrun Bison

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    Thank you
    How would you compare it to Dunlop 606 in regards to dirt and rode performance
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    outbactktm Bullrun Bison

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    Great tip thanks
  11. jdubb75

    jdubb75 Vicarious Adventurer

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    I really don't have any experience with a front 606. I had a rear 606 on a dual sported XR650R years ago, but that's the only one I've ever run.
  12. outbactktm

    outbactktm Bullrun Bison

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    Thanks the same
  13. knobbyjoe

    knobbyjoe Adventure and dirt rider

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    Note to jdubb75, Front 606 is rated for the big bikes and good on the 990 but wears fast the highway. Wore out a couple but that was before I started messing with tire pressure.

    Tractionator Report... front and rear after several long trips including lots of dirt. Maybe 5k miles.

    I have learned that airing up on the highway is need to reduce the howl, get better handling, and reduce tire wear. After experimenting, I prefer for the highway 40 psi and 17-18 psi in the dirt. I tried 10 psi in the sand and that worked well but worried about the rims being dented as rocks are out to get you. I do recommend experimenting with tire pressure as it is needed to find the sweet spot for these tires and it makes a big difference in handling and wear.

    I feel in all off-road conditions these tires provide confidence from improved and predictable good handling compared to standard dual sport tires. You might get the same off road results with knowbbies but Tractionators will wear much better than say the 606 on the highway.

    Would I like these for my all around tires? No, as their street feel and turning ability is lacking. That is why I have an extra set of wheels with Conti Trail Attacks so I can burn and turn in the mountain highways.
  14. darkstarmoto

    darkstarmoto Am I evil? Yes I am

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    As an update from my review on page 12, I just put an 1100 miles trip on this past weekend (the BRP and surrounding area). This update is for the rear only as I pulled the front off knowing I'm not overly confident in it for a strictly street ride, replaced by K60.
    The rear again performed flawlessly, ran it at 35lbs pressure with about 30lbs of gear + my 185lb butt. I'm guessing I have near to 3K miles on the rear and I am just now getting to the 1st little wear markers in the large center knobs. I am NOT kind on the throttle either...I ride this bike like my old Speed Triple on the street. We even had some good downpours and I felt really confident the rear wasn't going anywhere (natural rubber again I think makes a big difference). Gosh at this rate it's gonna take a lot of riding to wear this thing out. Still haven't had any chunking or cracking in the tire either. Mine are from the first production run to get into the States if that makes a difference.
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  15. mutt550

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    I'm right around 6000 miles +/- of mostly gravel and pavement () maybe a little more, still about 800 miles of tread left....maybe. It is squared off pretty bad but no worse than the last two tires on the wide rim. So over all I will buy another rear but not another front. Running a tk80 on the front since the death of the Motoz front.
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  16. PapaWolf

    PapaWolf When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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    This is a great thread and I am glad I found it! I have decided tondefinitely run the rear Tractionator Adventure on an upcoming 4300 mile trip, but I'm having a really hard time deciding on a front tire for my DR650 (I know, I know, wrong bike :))

    It seems like about half of the people who have commented here are fine with the Tractionator front, and the other half absolutely do not like it, especially on pavement. Since I will have about 2000 miles of pavement on this trip (mostly after all the dirt part) I want to make sure I have something well suited to the job.

    I've seen a few recommendations for the Pirelli Rally Scorpion, but it seems like it might be just a hair too knobby for this. What about doing a TKC front? I believe some of the longer wearing 50/50 tires would not be a great combo, such as the E-07 or K60.

    Basically, I would like a front that hooks up well enough in the dirt and rocks of the GDR and COBDR, but also works alright on the pavement I have to ride 1600 miles back home...
  17. northbender

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  18. northbender

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    I have about 2000 miles 90% paved on my scorpion rally front on a 990adv. I've lost 1/3 of the height of the center knobs but it still works well.

    I don't push hard on paved corners, but the tire seems nice and predictable.

    I will replace it with the same soon.
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  19. PapaWolf

    PapaWolf When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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    Thanks northbender.

    Would you think the Scorpion Rally would be a better front match than the Shinko then?

    And, based on your notes yhere, it seems as though the Scorpion Rally would make it through my trip of 4300 miles, but be getting low upon finishing?

    Thank you!

  20. brian619pattersn

    brian619pattersn Been here awhile

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    I love pirelli rally but wouldnt be my choice for what you want might not even last too. I would go shinko tkc 80 or something similar
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