Alright so I want a new bike. I ride a DR650 and love it to pieces, but I want something better suited to grinding slab all day, but still able to do a little forest service road riding. My problem is, I don't want a bike with ABS, traction control, immobilizer systems, and could even live without EFI. What did you expect from a guy on a DR right? After talking to a lot of my riding buddies, none of them are really interested in bikes with all those options either. Are we just weird? Or does everybody really want all these options? I had my heart set on a Super Tenere, and could score a decent deal on a new one, but the traction control and ABS, and the brake force management stuff seems a little ridiculous to me. The service manual for a Tenere is far and beyond the thickest one out of all the new Yamaha bikes. And this is the bike to ride the world on? :huh I considered a Tiger 800, but the smart key immobilizer "chip in the key" stuff sounds like a good way to be stranded with a perfect running bike. And turning the ABS off is a pain in the ass. I've heard of more than a couple instances of immobilizer problems... Am I the only one that wants just a plain ole multi cylindered ADV tourer type bike without all the electronic nanny systems?