Why are most men so emasculated?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Disco Stu, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. inline4

    inline4 Long timer

    Nov 9, 2008
    Not emasculated, they were never masculated in the first place.

    From momma, then they marry "momma" a woman who controls every decision, from money to the house, car they buy, etc.
    He is still a kid, fantasy football, video games, every TV sport, beer with his buddies.
    Just bring home that pay check, she doles out an allowance.

    "new wife/momma sez "we can't afford a motorcycle", while every week she buys two or three carts full of shit from China at Wal-Mart which will be in the garbage in 5 months..

    shit, these guys can't even sharpen a knife....
  2. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

    Jul 7, 2005
    Asheville NC
    That's what I came here to say. ^

    If you work in bike sales, you run into these guppies all the time. They can barely buy a cup of coffee at the stop-n-rob without having to explain their actions.

    screw that. :deal
  3. inline4

    inline4 Long timer

    Nov 9, 2008
    I have know guys were honest enuff to admit they were afraid of motorcycles. Or knew they would end up dead.

    I know guys who buy cars, trucks, go carts, watercraft, ATV's etc. anything for their boys, but the girls couldn't even rent a clarinet. Well, only a couple.
    I know women who would dress the daughters in all the latest $$$, including a car, while they dress their boys like bums and drive a rust bucket. Several moms like that. Dad is just the paycheck.
  4. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

    Aug 6, 2009

    I love being single.
  5. bwringer

    bwringer Gimpy, Yet Alacritous

    Jan 22, 2008
    I never know what to say to the "never masculated" guys. They're a bit unsettling. Growling "grow a pair" seems counterproductive. I just feel sorry for them and disgusted in equal measures.

    There's a guy in my neighborhood who I think falls a bit into the "fear" category. He's always wandering past while walking their little rat dog, talks about wanting to buy a motorcycle, and admires my fleet. But at the age of 60, with his gonads firmly locked away in his wife's purse, I don't think he'll ever do anything about it. Every time he walks away, I resolve never to become that guy.

    However, my wife and I freely use the "he/she won't let me" excuse when needed to fend off pesky salesdroids, and it works well. Then we laugh our asses off. The very thought of one of us "allowing" the other to do anything is fookin' hilarious. :lol3

    And yes, we did have "the talk" about motorcycles long before marriage.
  6. SkiFastBadly

    SkiFastBadly A beer? Yes, please

    Mar 28, 2007
    Woodinville, WA
    Let me go ask my wife.
  7. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

    May 13, 2009
    Dearborn, MI
    A friend owns a new and used tool store, and every once in awhile we see a guy bring his wife in and try to justify a purchase to her........:rofl
  8. opmike

    opmike Choosing to be here.

    Sep 11, 2011
    Southeast, US
    I'd never marry into a "let" relationship. I'm not going to "let" them doing anything and they aren't going to "let" me do anything either. We're both goddamned adults, and a relationship isn't the place to put all your pre-existing passions and interests on hold or to have their continuation or cessation dependent entirely upon someone's irrational little biases. Should there be compromises? Sure. But things like, "Well, guns are bad. They scare me!" isn't the same kind of argument as, "Well, we can't really afford that LaRue upper or Nightforce right now because of X, Y, and Z." Objective financial issues can be a clear and present problem. Something like fear is often borne out of misconceptions and can often be cured with a few trips to the range. Why would I yield a passion of mine so quickly to something so potentially transient?

    I have interest in science (including evolutionary biology), motorcycles, guns, cars, airplanes, and motorsports. I don't expect to hear any complaining from anyone else regarding these interests unless they are somehow becoming overly intrusive upon the relationship, financially, etc...

    Luckily, I've been able to find women with similar views. She buys her shit, watches her shit, reads her shit, and goes to her shit...I do the same on my end. Most often there's some overlap, sometimes not, and it's never turned into an issue. I respect a person who will make a real effort to become interested or otherwise supportive of someone else's interests, and I always make an effort to do the same. I see a relationship as being a place for growth, not a prison.

    Life's too short to start changing and molding who you as a person just to keep someone else happy. Maybe I'm a selfish bastard, but for me, if it came down to the wire and I HAD to choose, a happy life means more than a happy spouse if said spouse will only be appeased if I change who I am. It ain't gonna happen and I wouldn't dare ask her to do the same. So far, I've been able to keep both the life and spouse at comparable levels of happiness. YMMV.
  9. FotoTEX

    FotoTEX Long timer

    Feb 22, 2007
    Granbury Texas
    On our 1st wedding anniversary a friend called and said he knew of a nice used BMW for sale, I cancelled lunch at the Fairmount in Dallas and went and bought it. She is happy I have a passion for riding. That was 34 years ago. You keep the good ones and skip on the others...
  10. Treedguy

    Treedguy Long timer

    Mar 24, 2008
    NY Hell
    "Everybody's funny............. now you're funny too."
  11. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

    Oct 9, 2007
    Tucson, AZ
    Exactly like the current state of political affairs. We have one side that wants people to be able to choose who they have sex with and the other side that wants to control your personal decisions.
  12. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

    Oct 22, 2008
    South (Dog help me) Bay
  13. Iwantabikesobad

    Iwantabikesobad Long timer

    Jul 2, 2007
    Bakersfield Ca. USA
    I'm thinking Opmike nailed this one.
    When we talked about motorcycles, the first thing my wife said was, I aint riding on the back. I need one of my own.
    She is on her second bike and eyeing a new BMW now.
    Financial responsibility is very important in a marriage but,Squeezing the life out of someone wont fly here.
    She does her stuff, I do mine. Works great for us.
  14. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

    Oct 17, 2010
    Nor Cal, USA
    This. Guys say they wish they had a bike, but they don't.

    I used to pour a lot of time into endurance sports, and the wife hated it. Then my interest level waned a little bit, and I gave it up. The tension wasn't worth it any more.

    But she actually doesn't gripe about the motorbike. She figures it's safer for me to ride 3-4 hours a week on a motorbike than 12-14 hours a week on a bicycle.
  15. wmax351

    wmax351 Been here awhile

    Mar 13, 2011
    Marin County and Berkeley, CA

    Family friend had something along those lines. Used to work on a bike racing team. (Engineer)

    Gets married, and has to sell the bike till the kids are in college. One is, other is a junior. He's already shopping. The wife is adopting more Dachshunds. I suggested a Ural with a sidecar for the Dachshunds (you could probably fit a dozen or so).

    Although, he got the "Meet half way" option: Sports Cars. He has a perfect '75 Porsche 914 and a '83 928. Hell, the 914 weighs about the same as some bikes. He's also been allowed to ride, just not own one.
  16. Contevita

    Contevita Cigar Adventurer

    Oct 25, 2011
    Gulfport, MS, USA
    A friend of mines says he want's a bike, says if he were to divorce the current wife a bike would be one of his first purchases. When I brought over my bike to his house the first time, the first words out of his wife's mouth was "no, don't even ask". Just this past weekend I was over there and asked he like to join us in a ride for a while, he declined. I don't get it, this dude will drive his BMW auto to the limit, 150mph, but won't ride pillion? I guess his wife doesn't know he drives that fast, or maybe she does and will think he'll take a motorbike faster. Maybe he's avoiding confrontation, etc. I don't get it, I just don't.
  17. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

    May 29, 2002
    Fort Collins, Colorado
    nut up or shut up...
    you fucking love that movie! :evil
  18. DC2wheels

    DC2wheels Castle Anthrax troll

    Jul 11, 2008
    So......... if she wants something, does she have to ask him?? :eek1

    I thought that marriage (or similar arrangement) was a partnership, not a master/servant relationship. WTF.

    Kind of one of the biggest things to get straight before tying the knot, don't cha think?

    We did- 31 years ago.
  19. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave I cannot abide.

    Oct 7, 2011
    11 ft. AMSL
    I think that "The wife won't let me" is more of a way of saying, or not saying/admitting, "The wife convinced me that while our children are under 18, I should do my best to stay safe and alive to be there for them, and I agree."

    That, or change that argument to be for financial reasons instead of children. Either way, a lot of guys won't admit they were convinced.

    Sure, the wives argued against it, but they made sense and the men you've met agreed.

    The numbers of guys who do finally buy bikes, or buy bikes again, after their children are grown attest to that.
  20. O.C.F.RIDER

    O.C.F.RIDER Loose nut behind h/bars

    Feb 28, 2004
    Hewitt,New Jerseystan, OBAMANATION
    My first ex-wife say's to me 8 months into the, uh, "marriage", I want you to sell your bikes and quit riding so we can have kids. Mind you that we had known each other since I was 13 and she was 9,(married at 25 & 21) and I started riding at 8 years old, so it's not like my being addicted to motorcycles was some sort of a surprise to her.
    My reply to her was, "Well Kathy, bitches like you are a dime a dozen, and I'll never find anything I enjoy quite as much as riding. So, if that's the way you feel I guess you're going to have to leave."
    She left shortly thereafter.
    I kept happily riding
    On the first date with the 2nd ex-wife she was hearing about how much I like to ride and I said, "yeah, I like to ride most Sunday's but there's other things to do other than ride." 13 years later she'd say...."years ago I remember him saying that there are other things to do other than ride, but that's the only thing the asshole wants to do on the week-end." My reply would always be, "There ARE other things to do, I just don't feel like doing any of them with you."
    Current, hopefully never 3rd ex, wife actually likes the fact that I have such passion for SOMETHING, as her 1st ex-husband (my ex best friend :lol3) had passion for NOTHING. 7 bikes downstairs right now and figuring out what bike to get with the money from selling the 'Vette. :D She even had the dis-pleasure of falling off with me when we hit a patch of anti-freeze on my 950...................and she stills likes going riding! A great cook also! YUP! She's a keeper! I just hope she doesn't come to her senses one day and give my ass the boot. :lol3

    Ride On!