Why are WestCo batteries such crap?

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by ozmoses, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. 100RT

    100RT Long timer

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    Westco's used to be rebadged Panasonic's. That is no longer the case.
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  2. Sport

    Sport Been here awhile

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    Me too! It lasted nine years in my 79 CBX and was always on a Deltran Jr when not in use.
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  3. Gillus

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    I leave all my bike, car and deep cycle batteries on maintainers if they sit unused. They consistently test 13.2 on a $20.00 walmart charger, 12.9 on a battery tender jr and 13.4 on a harbor freight cheapo. I have small green lights glowing all over my garage.:bluduh

    The Walmart charger will charge 14+ volts till the battery reaches 100% then drops to 13.2.
    It is good to test the voltage and keep an eye on the water level.

    In a previous life the rule was a good battery was 12.6/7 at rest, and 13.9 to 14.5 when the engine is running and charging depending on load.

    Sorry this doesn't comment on Wesco batteries but overcharging on a trickle/maintainer could be a problems if it is overcharging.
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  4. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    Don't know if mine is an old panasonic or one of the new POS's..

    Here's a video I shot this morning.

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    I misspeak in the video, the ride was the beginning of september, so the bike has only been sitting 4 months. No trickle charger or anything like that, though I will probably put it on one overnight tonight. Sometimes I top the batteries on my sitting bikes once during the winter.

    Date written on the battery is 9/2008, so she's 4 year and 3 months old.
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  5. CanteenBoy

    CanteenBoy Slammin' the ol' Jammer

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    Mine worked fine for about 3.5 years, then failed suddenly without warning after a ride home from work....never gave the first signs it was going bad.
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  6. FJ_Kevin

    FJ_Kevin Been here awhile

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    I had two westco's in my airhead. 1st one went just over a year.

    Dealer I bought it from asked Westco for help but Westco refused :puke1.
    Wanting to ride the thing that day I purchased a replacement Westco. That one went about 3 years.

    My 1st westco in my miata was OK. The 2nd miata westco didnt last so long for the price paid.

    I think the quality is spotty at best. Personally, I have had enough of Westco's and wont buy them anymore:ddog.
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  7. DoktorT

    DoktorT BigBrowedNeandereer

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    I installed one of those last summer. It is stored cold and dry for winter no charging at all. We will see how it tests out this spring.

    I got less than 2 years out of both an Odyssey and an Interstate. I tried a Westco. Took it home, charged to full charge, gave it the load test. Would not rebound to new battery spec. Took it right back. They confirmed it was weak brand new off the shelf.
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  8. Boxer Metal

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    Interesting thread with everyone bashing Westco batteries. I bet I've sold 3 or 4 thousand of them over a 10 year period with less than 1.5% avaerage failure rate according to Westco. So a small handful of you are having issues. Your a pretty small percentage. I wonder what the rest of the battery manufactures percentage of failure is?
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  9. Boxer Metal

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    Interesting thread with everyone bashing Westco batteries. I bet I've sold 2 or 3 thousand of them over a 10 year period with less than 1.5% avaerage failure rate according to Westco. So a small handful of you are having issues. Your a pretty small percentage. I wonder what the rest of the battery manufactures percentage of failure is?
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  10. DoktorT

    DoktorT BigBrowedNeandereer

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    You misinterpret, as least in my case. I did no bashing at all of Westco Batteries. I reported facts on the one battery I had my hands on. I've seen one that was defective. I also mentioned 2 other brands that were short lived. It is just us 1.5%ers reporting evidently.
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  11. ozmoses

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    I was surprised to see this thread revived...Well, my experience was a 100% failure rate as noted so I posed the question.
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  12. Hedge36

    Hedge36 My e-penis is huge.

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    Grrr...

    Three month old WestCo in the R100. Dead as a friggin' doornail.
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  13. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    That rate means if you sell 10,000 batteries you get 150 pissed off customers. Not acceptable seeing as how each one can influence a half dozen potential customers. These batteries are old and mature technology. Only poor manufacturing gets a failure rate like that.

    On the other side ofthe coin some bikes have electrical issues that damage the batteries and some customers don't care for them properly. The issue finished off the old battery and just took out the new one too. But the owner blames the battery because it's the last thing they messed with.
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  14. lkchris

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    Dream on!

    If you could find a Westco that was EXACTLY the same size as the BMW battery and had EXACTLY the same terminals as a BMW battery, then it would be on its way to being a motorcycle battery. That wouldn't be enough, of course.

    Lower prices usually are the cause of lots and lots and lots of rationalization. Reality is something altogether different.
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  15. garthg

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    I guess I'm in the 98.5% silent majority.

    I've had two Westco's for over five years, and both are still strong.

    I kept them alternating on a single Deltran float charger, switching them over every couple of weeks or so, and recently bought an HF float charger, to see how that works with both on a charger.

    Service life has been fine so far, and no battery acid on the frame or swingarm.
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  16. AntonLargiader

    AntonLargiader Long timer

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    A true 1.5% failure rate probably isn't bad, for WestCo or anyone else. Depends on the time frame. Automotive battery companies want higher failure rates! They want the battery to fail just inside the warranty so you get another one of theirs. You're paying for it anyway.

    However, I don't think the failure rate for these can be pinned down so closely. The WestCos that I replace are neither reported nor replaced under warranty; the owners just want a new battery so they can go ride.
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  17. ozmoses

    ozmoses Ride On

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    Still junk or..?
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  18. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    That's a good point. I've had 2 Yuasa batteries fail on me in a year or less and I've just recycled them at the dump and got something new. No report on the failure.
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  19. doctorwho?

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    I have had two Westco SLA batteries in my R100CS and both went tango-uniform within a year. The batteries were made in Vietnam. They were sold on line. Both a disappointment. Despite a battery tender in a heated garage, my bike is presently awaiting a new battery. It will not be a Westco.
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  20. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    Have you checked your charging system? Guess which way I'm betting an ice cream...
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