Why did you choose the 1190 adv std over the R?

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  1. tvblue67

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    Anybody tried both the 1190 adv std and the R and decided to go with the std?

    I'm trying to decide between the 2, but was only able to test ride the std as there is no R demo available for me to try.

    The reason to choose the R for very tall guys or heavy off roader is obvious, but I'm curious to know why people who tried both prefered the std over the R.
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  2. ternus

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    I chose the standard because I could flat-foot it; I felt much more comfortable on it than the R. Having had marginal foot traction on my previous bike (2012 V-Strom) when e.g. backing up, being able to get my feet down was important to me.
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  3. ADVill

    ADVill Been here awhile

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    Feels much lighter due to lower center of gravity
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  4. Black Hills

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    I didn't :D
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    :lurk ....life is too short not to own an 1190...
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    This.
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  7. tvblue67

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    I'm very happy for you that you love your bike, but don't you own an R?
    The question is why you choose the std over the R... :rofl
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  8. scudrunner82

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    My bad. I have a hard time hiding my excitement over this new fangled machine. :rofl

    Either way you choose I doubt you will be disappointed!!!!
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  9. davehg

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    I went in not sure about which model, leaning towards the Standard. Lowered seat height, e-suspension, better handling on pavement. Dealer encouraged me away from an R, but I really want to spend more time off-road, so he says to tweak the Standard with off road tires. Test rode the R, not as tall as I feared, handled way better on the pavement then I expected, not quite as well as the standard.

    Got home, read more and watched videos, looked in my garage at the Husky TE310 and the FJR. Street is already well covered, as is hardcore dirt. Want something I can rise anywhere in any weather, tour if I want. E suspension is the kicker, but the R seems easy to tweak between road and street once I nail each setting.

    Hmmm... put a deposit on the next inbound R. Can always change my mind and get the Sid, but the dealer has only 3 R's due until July, but lots more STDs.

    So... haven't totally decided but likely to go with the R. I'm sure this helps not one bit with your decision.
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  10. Kletsou

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    Hi,
    I bought a standard in April 2013. I never rode the 1190's before I bought the standard. My reasons were:
    - more road focused and I have the off road portion covered
    - e-suspension
    - more "comfort" focused
    - wheel sizes

    I did 14,000 km on it and swooped it for a R on which I have now done 2500km.

    I experienced handling issues on the std and experienced the same on 4 other stds I rode. The KTM dealers did not pick up the same problem. Could be anything from my "riding style" to settings. Anyway - I test rode the R and did not pick up the same issues I had on the std.

    On the std I did a fair amount of off road - nothing to serious. Long distances - 800km + rides in one go, twisties, strait boring roads, traffic, etc. so good mix of roads and rides. Loved the bike and the power, just in certain instances I had problems with the handling and that was enough to know the std is not for me.

    I swopped the std for the R and I am as happy as can be. In my mind a totally different ride. But that is me.

    My advice. Ride both in circumstances you are bound to us the bike and make the call then! You might not have such a forgiving and good dealer to help you with swop....
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  11. Davy F

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    Went for the standard as I don't need the more dirt focused version. Any trails I can do, I've found the standard more than capable. I also was so impressed with the handling and electric suspension on the demo ride that I believed it was the way forward and best suited for the many varied roads I travel. Of course, had the bike not had this wizardry, I wouldn't have really cared as the overall package is so good anyway. Despite others saying the R handles better than the standard, I just felt more secure on the standard on the road. The only real thing I prefer on the R is the paint scheme, tho' I'm very happy with the burnt orange of my bike as it is.
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  12. Tjeu

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    If the R would have had the e-suspension, i would have chosen the R.
    But the suspension is not available on the R, so i went for the standard. Greet bike!
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  13. tvblue67

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    What handling issues did you experience? Can you be a bit more precise? Thanks
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  14. Mowster

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    ^^

    I found the std bike electronic suspension damping presets not quite refined enough; on my bmw, the presets were a little more refined.

    Result is that the 'std' 1190 felt like the rear wheel struggled to deal with some punishing situations....YMMV

    Great bike, though...

    I chose the R model after 15k kms on the standard :deal no regrets, but the R model is pretty tall - i'm 178cm tall, and only just tall enough to deal with this beast :rofl
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    Awesome sig line Mowster :clap
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  16. Kletsou

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    Hi,
    Apologies for the late reply. I picked up a head shake on the bike varying from 140km/h +. This would occur under certain circumstances. So in general after riding about 40kms on the highway (traveling at average 140km/h). When I accelerated to about 180km/h I would get the "head shake". It would then occur any speed from 120km/h to 230km/h. This was with the standard screen and with touring screen. Happened with or without luggage(no panniers or topbox).

    It would then continue to perform in this manner until I set the dampening. After a bit of a ride it would do it again. Like I said, two dealers did not pick this up. I do not experience this on the R. So what it is/was I am not sure.... What I know is it took away my enjoyment of the bike and to have that on a wet road, scared the living daylight out of me.

    Hope this help?
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  17. Daveman

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    How much did your dealer charge you for the exchange?
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  18. brianpc

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    What is your inseam? I am 5'11 (about 180cm) and I have about a 30.5" (77cm) inseam, I can flatfoot or securely tiptoe most bikes (including the 1190 std). Interested in getting an R but haven't sat on one yet.
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  19. lentuk

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    I chose the standard, I wanted a 150 horse power street bike that was comfortable to ride in a regular seated position, a bike with all the modern technology and comfort.
    But mainly all that friggin power, I have passed and held off big inch sport bikes with this machine, gotta love it.
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  20. tvblue67

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    Anyone else experienced that head shake on the std (or the R?)?
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