Why does the KLR engine suck in HP

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  1. Off the grid

    Off the grid Seeker of the Unf

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    Try to take this advice, youngster.

    1. Don't be so angry. It's a discussion about motorcycles. Metal, rubber, combustibles.

    2. Be quiet and learn a bit before joining in. Get a few years of real-world experience under your belt. Your lack of wisdom shows in how personally you made it your "job" to try and flame me. It was ok at first, I know I push peoples buttons, but now it's getting creepy, son. And when it gets creepy, it only makes you look bad, not me. Anyone on Thumpers knows that I am pretty consistent with when I will show up to a thread.

    3. Articulate your arguments with facts, not emotion. Your current line of reasoning is based on rage at me which is evident in your page-long rants. No one, including myself, is reading that. You lose people when it's emotion, it's making you look bad.

    Facts, not emotion.

    Last chance before you go on ignore. Think before you post.
    Really let it sink in.
  2. Off the grid

    Off the grid Seeker of the Unf

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    Man, what a great opportunity! Why not take it and sample the bike that you are selling? I'm sure you can get one at cost.

    Life is short....and motorcycles are like women, ride as many as you can, while you can! :viking
  3. Kawidad

    Kawidad Long timer

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    Anyone who makes a blanket statement that Euro bikes are easier to work on than a Japanese bike has never tried to do a valve adjustment on a BMW 650Xchallenge. Not to mention anything routine on a KTM 950/990 ADV.:rofl
  4. CodyY

    CodyY ADVenture Capitalist

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    Oh? 1979 called, they want their facts back. BMW "invented" the adventure-touring segment.
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    http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-motorcycles/history-of-the-bmw-gs-series/

    And the KLR 600 was introduced in '84. Fyi

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  5. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    I love this thread -- it makes me feel so smart ;-}
  6. CodyY

    CodyY ADVenture Capitalist

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    You can tell its winter. Always gets like this

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  7. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    I am well aware of the intro date of the KLR600.

    I said defined, not invented. While the GS and the GSPD were certainly splendid bikes, and remain so today, BMW used technology that was not accepted by the mainstream. They were uncommon and costly in their time, and are becoming increasingly scarce and expensive as time progresses. The KLR, whatever your opinion of it may be, did much to make adventure riding available to the masses, much as the Jeep made off-road driving available to the common man.
  8. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    Hell, I'M still riding to work! *

    40 degrees, Chicago, December . . . . how cool is that!

    Bricka Bracka
    Fiyah Crackah
    Sis
    Boom
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    Global Warming
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    Rah
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    RAH

    *Full disclosure, not my on KLR -- can't run heated gear AND headlight until I rewire the poor dear.
  9. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    NX650 was out back then, I wanted one sooo bad, but couldn't afford one. Hit the showroom summer of '87, looked small compared to the KLR. The switch to water cooled bikes was in full swing by then and it just didn't catch on...the NX that is.
  10. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod Red Clay Halo

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    This is the reason I bought my KLR.

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    ...and my KLR is the reason I bought a KTM. :evil
  11. kojack

    kojack My Hardley is a POS

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    Love the NX....great bike! with either motor too! I never wanted one back in the day because the front fender...ha ha..
  12. kojack

    kojack My Hardley is a POS

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    Dr BIg, another sweet bike! nice find, forgot about that one..
  13. Myfuture_yourdebt

    Myfuture_yourdebt Banned

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    Seriously dude? Off the grid has been consistently saying that KTMs and Euro bikes "dominate the dual sport market". There's only one way to read that. He's saying that those bikes sell more than others in the market, thereby dominating it with their sales. This is not the case, period. I even said in a previous post here exactly what you posted above (that he actually means performance)...yet you respond to my post like you're proclaiming some revelation. Pay attention and you might be able to actually contribute to the conversation.
  14. Myfuture_yourdebt

    Myfuture_yourdebt Banned

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    1. I can get angry all I want. How about I go do what you've done here in a KTM thread and see who gets angry. You were trying to make people angry. Now you got what you wanted, you're complaining about it...you're learning bad habits from your wife.

    2. I already have a few years of real world experience. I have over 30k miles under my belt in the last 4 years. I've been lurking on this forum since about 4 years ago. I and everyone else here doesn't give two shits about what you think is "creepy". Swing your purse at me if you're that creeped out by someone slinging your BS right back at you. What did you say earlier..."reap what you sow". Yeeeaaahhhh.

    3. I have articulated my argument with facts. I've called your BS multiple times and you can't back it up with your own facts. That's a fact. How are Euro bikes dominating the dual sport market? I said they aren't. That's a fact, look at sales. You said KLR owners think their bikes should be able to do tabletops. I said, no, this forum has seen very, very, very few complaints if any from KLR owners about their bikes' inability to handle MX track terrain because the vast majority aren't kidding themselves (unlike some KTM owners who think they're racing the Dakar around every corner). That's a fact. It's obvious facts don't mean much to you, though.

    Jesus Off the grid is incredibly full of himself. "Last chance before you go on ignore" he said :cry
    OH NO I'M GOING TO GO ON IGNORE, OH PLEASE OFF THE GRID, DON'T! I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO WITHOUT YOU SEEING MY POSTS!

    Only a dry floppy vagina uses the ignore function on an internet forum. This isn't the real world in here...You can simply not read my posts if you can't handle someone actually taking you up on an argument after you spew controversial crap that you knew would lead to an argument. But your fragile little eyes can't take that sort of damage, can they!?
  15. bullittman281

    bullittman281 Been here awhile

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    such an angry thread......
  16. beergut

    beergut Thumper

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    LED headlight and HID high beam takes care of that issue. Want to take it a step further...pop LED's in the dash also. The truck stop has em for $6/pr
  17. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    I'm running a Britannia HID fairing (35 watts low beam, 70 high), and an LED tail lamp on my '07, and can ride long distances with my 90 watt jacket liner cranked pretty far into the hot zone. It's a balancing act when the high beam is on, but it works. Mount a voltage meter and keep an eye on it. For all the crap that is thrown around about the KLR, it's a competent machine.
  18. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    Can -- thanks for the data . . . . . .while I like the Britannia products, I like the cut down screen (3.5 / 4 inches) on my stock fairing (for when I fall off road ;-} . . . .. )

    I'm hoping to keep the stock headlamp, as well, primarily for ease of servicing out in the Thulies . . . . .

    I am confident that increasing the wire guage in the charging circuit, LEDs in the tail light and dash (already done), and MAYBE installing a gen 2 stator, will allow the 65 watt jacket liner and 10 watt gloves to run with the headlamp on.

    My voltage meter tells me I'm only little off, so my fingers are crossed.


    The KLR is exactly what I expected it to be . . . and I'm diggin it to pieces!
  19. XDragRacer

    XDragRacer Long timer

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    Might be in the, "too hard," box . . . Generation 2 stator has no exciter coil for the CDI (becuse, Generation 2 KLR650's have no CDI's).
  20. SFMCjohn

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    Pic on the Salar de Uyuni at 12,000 feet, from Doogle's fun klr2tdf Ride Report:
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641039

    It's pretty short (14 pages) ... great pics, and fun to keep track of what does not go wrong with his KLR ... :ricky

    All my single-cylinder KTM pals truck their bikes to rallies, too ... :dunno

    see you around the campfire,
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