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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by mrbreeze, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. DannyZRC

    DannyZRC Been here awhile

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    good luck with a cite on that whopper.
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  2. corndog67

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    Webbike World.

    I see the other specs, 229kg on other sites, I'd think they are quoting BMW.
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  3. corndog67

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    Good luck with a quote from BMW. They also quote 110hp, another lie.
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  4. cug

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    But 229kg sounds more like road ready (90%) when I trust the 205 empty (which I do - without ABS and any other options).

    And the 110HP is has been verified by dyno measurements on bikes. Some have this, some a bit more, some a bit less. Oh, and btw: I'm very interested in weight numbers, I don't a flying shit for HP. Never have, never will.
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  5. wmax351

    wmax351 Been here awhile

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    Fuel injection is very good. The K75 is perfectly fine, and better than carbs of the era. Dead reliable. Never has any significant issues. Its been perfectly good since 1983 (for the k100). This is the era of the first lean burn bikes. The throttle response and performance is better. More reliable too. Easier to start.

    Its far easier to re-tune too. If it can't figure itself out, there is power commander, performance ecu's, and aftermarket ecus. A couple of keypresses does far more than hours of re-jetting.
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  6. corndog67

    corndog67 Banned

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    My K100 worked very well, except in the rain, when one cylinder would cut out. But I didn't ride much in the rain, I suppose a good waterproofing of the connections would have fixed that right up.
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  7. DannyZRC

    DannyZRC Been here awhile

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    webbike world isn't rolling anything onto scales, they just reprint press releases. (and do helmet/gear/accessory reviews)

    http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-motorcycles/r1200st/ Is their page for the ST, the quote about wet weight of 573lbs is about the R1200RT. It even says R1200RT in the exact sentence you drew your # from. Happens that 573 is about right for the wet weight of an RT.
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  8. j_csquare

    j_csquare Been here awhile

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    Why don't they just build this bike (or something similar)? The CBR1200XX/CBR1300XX is what we would have liked instead of the VRF1200.

    [​IMG]
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  9. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    Yep.

    I don't understand the notion of being wistful about carbs.
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  10. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1

    Some old stuff makes sense and has a different "feel", but the carbs are
    just plain pain in the a$$ without a single benefit IMHO.

    Of course, if the FI is sorted out well.
    One thing I can't stand is surging.
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  11. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    We did an informal poll thing once.

    I don't think there is a noticeable difference in reliability, but quality of materials, fasteners, paint, finish etc. can be noticeable between models.
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  12. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    Maybe, but I don't think so. I went from a DL1000 to an ST1300, and was blown away by the difference. It wasn't real apparent at first, but the more I got to know the ST, the more amazed I was witht he quality of it. It completely changed my attitudes toward Hondas.

    I probably should have replaced the ST with another ST, but it's water under the bridge now. I have had 4 different bikes in the last 2 years. It's time to keep one for a while and let the bank account recover from the abuse... :lol3

    I rode the Nomad in to the office today, and enjoyed it.
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  13. ty.zardoz

    ty.zardoz Adventurer

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    Can you tell me what year the stripped Goldwing is? I have a passion for naked and bobbed bikes and always wanted a wing... I understand that some of them are more desirable than others for my purposes. The bike you show looks to be quite "bobbable" compared to some I've seen.

    tyz
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  14. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    Yep. Honda rules. After you ride enough bikes and work on enough bikes that aren't yours, you see Honda consistently top the competitors in quality and engineering and whatnot.
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  15. lake_harley

    lake_harley Been here awhile

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    I don't know all the differences between years, but my guess is '83 GL1100. That was the first year for the cast wheels. '84 were the 1200's, but I don't think it's a 1200.

    Lynn
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  16. wmax351

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    Likely is a cracked ignition coil. Arcs in the rain.
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  17. eakins

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    +1
    it's coming to canada this year and i'm sure like the 650 will be in the us a year after.
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  18. sleazy rider

    sleazy rider Squidly Adventurer

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    Yup, '83 with the cast wheels. I had an '81 and would love to have it back. It handled well, never missed a lick other than when the ignition cylinder failed and consistently delivered ~42 mpg. The only thing I'd do differently now? I'd strip 90% of the chrome off and go for function over style. It had plenty of storage room for the cross country camping trips too. Lots of weather protection was a good thing. The older ones were easy to work on, except for carbs. That was a headache. I paid $2200 for it, rode it four years and sold it for $2750.
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