Why is Transalp that famous? Need help choosing a bike!

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Skyy223, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Skyy223

    Skyy223 New on the Road

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    This is a major point and literally after driving the chopper today i might overthink everything xD I literally checked some offers of cool oldschool nakeds and ended up on Kawas Zephyrs, Yamaha XJ600n and Suzuki Bandits...
    All i can say that these bikes look WAY cooler and might be a better option for beginners aswell. BUT I really fell in love with the idea of travelling with a motorcycle. I don't want a bike for commuting... I will drive to work with my car just because of the clothes... I want one to get away on the weekends on, to travel throu Scandinavia and France in my work vacations.

    And in 2 years i MIGHT get a year off...I want to do a sabbatical, my company didn't decide yet. So IF i get it i need a bike to travel to china on. There i want to sell the bike. Then go to china on normal Backpacking, then get a new bike in Laos/Cambodia/Thailand and then fly to the USA...in the USA i could get a KLR 650 or whatever to get all the way south to Argentina... But do I really need a travel bike right away?
    For half of the price I can get a naked and just start driving.
    I literally ahd that in mind when entering this forum again and saw you post and I think the way im going right now is plain stupid.. xD

    The thing is...in the driving school I just drove nakeds and a CBF600f and even tho I liked the look...my wrists started hurting after ~1,5 hours of driving. That's maybe only because I am new and not used to it tho... And also you can get higher grips for a naked aswell right?

    DAMN and I thought im close to a decision xD

    I actually could get a XJ600n AND a transalp 600 for the same price then a Transalp 700 xD

    AND something I didn't tell you guys yet...I have a thread in the HUBB forum (started it even before I had the licence) and the conclusion on 6 pages there where... I just get something for NOW and in 2019 I do the trip in either the Honda CRF250L (or Rally) or the Kawasaki Versys X-300, especially the versys should be a very good bike for my needs.
    So why not get a naked now? Damn I feel like a maniac with my jumpy thoughts.
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  2. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    One more thing. There is this misconception out there that you can only tour on a dedicated bike. Nothing could be further from the truth. That XJ600, Bandit, ER6, CB, MT-07, etc. etc. will take you anywhere you want to go in Europe easily. With a few adjustments (and assuming they are in good mechanical shape so you don't have to worry about breakdown en route), any of those could take you around the world too. Also, riding off-road gets a lot more complicated with weight and size. So, what may be a great adv-tourer for paved/maintained dirt roads at your skill level may be very hard to ride on a SE Asian muddy path. That is probably true for all of us, not just new riders. Keep that in mind when you are evaluating those options.

    Gustavo
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  3. Skyy223

    Skyy223 New on the Road

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    Thanks :)
    Yeah i guess a ER-5n would be great too... maybe just get it in a better seating position... higher bars for example.

    I probably should also mention that i drove from north vietnam to the south in 2013 on a 25ccm scooter xD
    I don't even know why I care for power... maybe because I am in Germany not where everything is fast...and not in vietnam anymore.

    Also the concept of Sell/Buy is way easier with such a naked i think.
    Get on a Naked until the roads are too bad, get a KLR650 or whatever in turkey/georgia wherever to get throu mongolia, switch to an old Honda 100 in laos (200€ and 90KG wet). And so on...
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  4. Little Bike

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    My first bike was a 250 cc Honda Rebel, rode it on a 3500 mile trip around the western US, still one of my favorite trips. It's not the bike. Get something you're comfortable riding then get some luggage and take off. You're really over thinking this - they'll be other bikes, buy the dang Transalp (if you're comfortable on it) and get moving.
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    HeidiHo Old, Bold, Still Riding

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    Skyy, I would listen to, and re-read...the two posts from Gustavo, as he is 100 % right ON with his comments. Reading through this thread I was going to make the exact same comments to you, until I read his posts.

    I have owned a '89 Transalp 600.....good bike. I have owned a '03 Honda Africa Twin 750....seriously better bike.
    I have owned a LOT of motorcycles over the past 47 years of riding, all 7 continents and 2 million miles.

    No way should you very first bike be something that you plan to ride 3 years from now, over to China.

    LEARN how to ride, and greatly improve your riding skills.


    Riding skills are much more important than what brand or model of bike you ride.

    When all that learning is done (and it is NEVER done)...then buy a used V-Strom 650...which can be found for the 2500 to 3000 euro you want to spend, and you will have a reliable bike that can be ridden anywhere on the planet.
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  6. Skyy223

    Skyy223 New on the Road

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    You are right, im overthinking this. I'm sorry :p

    I will still testride the V-Strom 650 and Transalp and if those suit me then i buy it. If I'm not comfortable I will get a naked.
    Thanks for the eye opening...a Trip around the World isn't something you should consider after getting your license...even tho that was the reason why i made my license in the first place.

    I guess why I want to buy a RTW bike NOW is because i get the Feeling that im already too old to get started..which is bullshit ofc I guess. :D
    Most People who do RTW have 10+ years of experience in travelling but I want to do this trip before I turn 30. Im 26 now.
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  7. neppi

    neppi Adventurer

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    Just remember to post pics of you riding the Transalp naked.

    Did I miss something here??? Ü
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    HeidiHo Old, Bold, Still Riding

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    Skyy, don't let the dram of riding around the world slip away. We are just saying there is a TON of work to do before taking off on that RTW trip....that if done right, can make the difference between success and failure on this RTW trip....years down the road.
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    Skyy223 New on the Road

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    I never said i will ride the Transalp naked :D I've meant getting a NAKED BIKE not a ADV-Bike as first bike :p

    I will not slip it away :) I will buy a naked now, drive it till 2019. In early 2019 i will sell my car and get a Honda CRF250L or Rally and then end of 2019 I will skip the Winter while riding south ;) That's my plan now.

    I tested a black Yamaha Xj 600n and a Honda seven fifty RC 42 today.
    On the XJ600 i LOVED the sound and it's super cheap. The breaks are pretty smooth, not sure if this could be a problem some day. Its 1200€ with checkup and 1 year warranty and is on 41.000km. New tires.

    The Honda Seven Fifty got the way better seating position imho even tho the knees are a bit high...it doesn't feel unnatural and didn't bothered me on the 30min testride but maybe on a very long trip it will. The sound is still good but not as good as from the Yamaha. The breaks are very sharp tho, it got double discs in front and you really feel that. I am not sure if I want such powerful breaks without ABS...it felt like if you panic those breaks will throw you over the handlebars. I loved the bigger ccm tho, much smoother to ride in low rounds.
    It didn't start at first, the seller said it's because it was in the garage long time...after a while (maybe 2-3 minutes) it was ready to ride...sometimes when i tried to speed up it felt like there where a "hole" like...I tried to get faster but at first it didn't went faster first...but then pushes ahead quiet hard. The seller said thats also because it was in the garage too long, just some air in the tubes or something. The Honda is on ~90.000km so alot more then the yamaha and cost 2400€...no new tires and it's dark red. Not a bad colour but the black yamaha looks slightly better imho.

    Hard decision :D
    I actually wanted to buy one of those bikes right away but decided to go to other sellers first...and it seems like almost every seller around here is a douchebag/doesn't want to sell motorcycles...i even got thrown out of one shop (the owner was an asshole) when i asked if i could testride a SV650... who buys a used car/motorcycle/bicycle without testing it!? what the fuck.

    But that first shop...with the 2 bikes...that guy is super relaxed, super ncie and really wanted to help me, not to sell me stuff. He said "if you wanna try out a bike from here just come by and test it, its free and I don't care if you buy...just get a good feeling about bikes".
    Sadly he mostly got the expensive BMWs (1200) and chopper...not many nakeds. But still i kinda wanna buy from him, with the 1 year warranty. Seems like a good idea.
    What do you think about those bikes?

    Then there is still that Transalp in that other shop, 90km away. I can testride it next saturday (not tomorrow but next week) because it needs a new thing in the
    steering head bearings (does that make sense? had to google translate it) and new tires.
    Should i wait before buying one of the nakeds? I feel like i could buy the yamaha or even the Honda tomorrow and start driiiiving :D But maybe i miss out the tranny then...
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    why not just ride a naked Transalp and be done with it? A saddle and a tank and you are good to go.

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  11. Little Bike

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    You have lots of amazing riding in Europe, I was going to head to Norway this summer (didn't happen :(), but did the west coast of Scotland a few years back - beautiful country and roads.
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    Skyy223 New on the Road

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    And i can all do that with a naked and still enjoy it ? :D

    Edit: I really want a Triumph Tiger 800 XC...I don't know why but somehow i WANT that bike...didnt even sat on it yet.

    That would be an option when i start travelling big time. For now naked or the transalp should be fine. Im already so excited on how the Transalp is. If I don't feel it im gonna get the Honda CB Seven Fifty or Yamaha NJ600n, just have to decide those.

    So it is Transalp OR a choice of seven fifty or NJ600n.
    For 2019/20 im either staying on the Transalp if i fell in love with it or switch to a used tiger...should be around 4-5t€ in 2 years from now. Good plan or not?
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  13. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    Buy the Transalp, ride, enjoy. Think about future bikes later.
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    Skyy223 New on the Road

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    We will see how it is.
    One Question to the Tranny... Rust on the bottom (on that protection plate) is just an optical problem not for the tech right?
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    :lol3:lol3
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    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    Do you have a friend who works on bikes that can go with you?
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    Skyy223 You've got a lot to learn. As i had when new, and still having...

    Motorbikes are dangerous. And in fact the only way to learn it's practicing and crashing...often.

    Crashing in a road can be in most of cases a cause of death or serious injury.
    Crashing in a racing circuit uses to be expensive.
    Crashing off road uses to be a funny thing to laugh about, and a cheap way to learn how motorbikes reacts near the limit.

    Buy a bike you can crash off road, easy to mend, and difficult to break, if what you want it's to learn how to drive safely in any condition (mud, snow, sand, river crossing...).

    How to control a front brake block, slippery front and rear wheel, a power slip, where to look in a corner, how to handle it when you are tired, how to turn arround in a close forest track, how to navigate, how to repair a puncture, a broken carter, a broken chain, a clutch cable, a clutch...are things i think is needed to make a rtw (and i've never been rtw).

    Try a TA full of crasbars, an xt 600, a tenere xt 660 z...if you really want to learn and enjoy riding.
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    Oh darn, that's what I was going to say, but "VStrom."

    Just get a VStrom ABS and go.
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  19. Little Bike

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    That works too. :lol3 Except he's a new rider, I think the Transalp is a bit lower and not so top heavy.
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    Transalp is top heavy!

    Do a proper handling course. We have these eight hour courses in NZ that go from city driving and slow speed handling (tricky for the pro's too!) to Open road. They gradually go higher in level, so that the last ones include some serious on road- and emergency skills.

    They also provide MC first aid / -responce training, gravel-, track- and other courses.

    Just take your time getting used to the bike and her tricks. Tear it down and bolt it back together. Learn to know how stuff works and how to keep it going.

    You'll need that knowledge if Ur going far far away.

    Crash bars make life easier, especially in slow handling. You'll find heaps of parts and add-ons in europe. For Cheap!

    Enjoy and have fun!
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