Why no bark busters?

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Huzband, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Huzband

    Huzband Team Dirt

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    What with all the bent & broken levers I've seen, & they aren't cheap, why aren't bark busters used on trials bikes? Can't be the weight. They're what, a pound?
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  2. lineaway

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  3. Gordo83

    Gordo83 Been here awhile

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    I had a pair on mine and loved em. They're great. Saved my levers and knuckles many times. Then I got new bars and they don't fit. Now I'm back to loose perches. Mine were made by Maier and weren't the aluminum ones. Just hard plastic.
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  4. Huzband

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  5. Gordo83

    Gordo83 Been here awhile

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    The ones I had must have been designed differently. If you touched a tree with the guard, you would have touched the tree with the bar too. So it would be a point with or without the guard.
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  6. lineaway

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    Sounds like you just had hand guards. Most mount on the bar ends, which make the bike 2 inches wider.:eek1
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  7. broncobowsher

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    Why? Because you haven't been looking for them.

    They are moderately popular here in AZ. I know they are not popular in the upper classes, they get in the way of the range of motion. But for us mortals who's limitations are themselve's and not the machine's there is a potential benefit. I decided that it was in my best interest to use them. I put them on right after breaking a(nother) lever in a simple fall. Inside of a year I think they paid for themselves. They have a little rash on them. I can think of 2 hard drops that I think they saved the levers. Add in a couple of rock wall encounters that saved a few digits (and the mental security that grazing something isn't going to result in a lot of pain in my had). I have never been penalized for a bark buster hitting anything that not having them would not have resulted in the exact same result.

    But getting a set to work did take some work. After a LOT of searching, the internet is great at looking at pictures of stuff. I finally got a set of Zeta bark busters. But they were not a simple bolt on. The inner perch was way too long, had to cut that back. The bend was slightly wrong, and that alloy they use is REALLY stout. Amazing as light as it is how hard it is to tweak into a better shape. Good thing it only needed a very slight adjustment. I ended up with a set of perches for 7/8" bars and carved them to match the size/taper of the Sherco bars. If you are an instant gratification person who wants to just slap a part on in a few seconds and be done with it, this is not for you. It took a good long evening of working it over to properly fit them. I have every plan to run them for years to come. Almost every event someone comes up and looks them over, wants to know what I use, where I found them, what it took to install them, etc.
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  8. NMTrailboss

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    I've been running plastic Acerbis handguards (no metal bar) on my trials bikes since day one. Never busted a lever or had a tree branch hit the brake and stop me in a section. No broken or damaged fingers. There's no way they are 2 inches wider...maybe 1/2" at most.

    Touching a tree with the handlebar or handguard...isn't that only a point if used for support? Brushing a tree as you ride by shouldn't count as a point (I don't think?).
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  9. Tarheel Wheeler

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    You're correct NMTB. At least that's the way our club rules read.

    The best thing about running bark busters is there is minimal to no chance of the throttle hanging wide open. Talk about a money saver...well worth the weight/cost/install time to save a motor! :evil
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  10. lineaway

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    1/2 inch my ?ss ! When you are squeezing thru a tight spot and get a point I`ll be there a smiling. Just think them guards won`t fit on your new bike! Can`t wait to see it Saturday.
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  11. NMTrailboss

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    If I get a point squeezing through a tight spot, it wouldn't have made any difference if I had handguards on or not except my fingers won't be bleeding afterwards! :lol3
    How many broken levers have you replaced?? :ear
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  12. thegraydog

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    Lineaway, are you just being provocative? Tell your story about smashing a finger on the same rock twice!

    Barkbusters -- they're a good idea if you think so. I've found a new way to fall off one of my practice sections, and saved two clutch levers this week!
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  13. lineaway

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    It`s not how many you break, it`s if you have enough spares in the first place! I have ridden several events with them. I did wish I had them one day. I hit the same rock three times, once a loop.
    At lake fork I`ll find you a nice tight spot to stick it!:D
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  14. nevgriff64

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    I'd be a bit hesitant using the protectors with the Aluminium bracing. One fall over the handlebars could result in broken wrists.

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    Something like these would work better if you think you really need them.

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  15. lineaway

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    Nice example Nev. The other down side is if you bend the bars during an event. Just takes more work. And if you are real unfortunate the busters could bust a hydraulic line. Just look at the pic!
    But then again I probably have a spare!:rofl
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  16. Night Falcon

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    After having to replace both levers I fitted a set BB's - paid for themselves already. Once I get to expert level in about 40yrs I might think about removing them but in the meantime they are essential noob equipment

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  17. jonnyc21

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    The ones I run are just the aluminum bar for a set of guards without the large deflector, used mostly to keep me from braking levers and crushing fingers... and as I am drop my bike plenty trying to learn new and more advanced stuff I figure its a good idea at least for me... When I feel like I am not dropping the bike as much when I try the more aggressive stuff I will likely take them off.

    I have a set of the same on my daughters bike as well, likely never to come off the Beta Rev 80. When she gets to the point she doesn't need them any more I hope to be upgrading her to a new bike, (125, 200?) we will see.

    Wife wants a set to save levers and hands tell she gets better as well.

    Just our 2 cents... I will say that the extra 1/2" or so on the end of the bars is something I will not miss in competition once I feel its time to take them off. :D
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  18. lamotovita

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    If preventing broken/bent levers is the goal, you can make sure your lever clamps rotate easily (teflon tape under the clamp helps). With this setup you can do a substantial amount of crashing without damaging levers. Trust me I know.
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  19. Tarheel Wheeler

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    Or buy folding levers.

    The issue with perch movement is getting them back to the original position. A trick I use is a witness mark on the bar and the clamp. Enables you to rotate the levers back to the original position quickly.

    As for broken wrists...I think the security factor for a new rider out weighs the risk of a broken wrist. It's not like we're running thru the woods on an enduro with no time to react to an off.
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  20. Jonny042

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    Then you shouldn't need bark busters!!

    +2 for the broken wrists. Ouch.
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