Why NOT a TE-511 Husky?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by PatrickM, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. PatrickM

    PatrickM Been here awhile

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    Been looking over specs of a bunch of comparable bikes to the Husqvarna TE-511 such as the KTM 450 EXC, the Husaberg FE570S, Beta 520RS, etc. Finally to the point of posting looking for additional information and feedback to help figure out my 2013 decision.

    Currently, I have a BMW F800GS which does plenty of work on and off road. It's a good bike especially for the highways and camping for 3+ days out, but for more technical work, not my first choice.

    So here's the criteria:

    1. Something lighter, 250-300 lbs is what I'm looking. The F800GS is 450 lbs of heft, good working heft for highways but when riding solo on trails, falling over is a major concern because of the effort righting her up. In addition, I want to be able to toss her onto the hitch mount for the 4Runner w/o worrying about crashing horribly and taking out the window.

    2. Fuel injected. I find myself going down to 100' up to 10,000' plenty of times on the weekend. One less thing to worry about is grand.

    3. Range. I'm in the Sierra's and when going off the beaten track, gas can become problematic. I don't mind carrying extra fuel and prefer it over a larger tank, but anything <100mpg range is not going to work, though 150-200 is what I'm looking for.

    4. Dual sport. I don't want to have to trailer this thing to take her out and have fun. This means having something that is street legal right off the bat.

    5. Power. I do enjoy my camping and 3+ days is fine on the F800GS, but an overnighter or two isn't to be overlooked for the new bike so it has to be capable of carrying me and a load.

    So, am I off base? I'm in Tahoe so to my west are the national forests of El Dorado and Toiyabe with non-stop mountain climbs and descents, including twisties. To my east are the wide open spaces of NV. I'll be hitting the highways a-plenty to get to the interesting spots and spending a few days there if not just blasting away the time in the wilds.

    Am I missing anything? Any factors that I've overlooked or should consider?

    I sat on the Husky in Reno and boy was she sexy (2012 model).

    Thanks!
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  2. jon6.0

    jon6.0 Been here awhile

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    Range sucks. My TE 449 will go 90-100 and hit reserve. You can put a .8 gallon Nomad tank tank on the tail, but that will only get you to maybe 150 total if you're lucky. Since the tank is under the seat, extra fuel is no easy thing. That said, I love my 449. The CTS is nice and traction is amazing. The shock linkage is tucked out of the way and ground clearance is phenomenal. Gearing is pretty low and over 65mph is a bit buzzy. Putting the bike in Race Map II yields an easily felt power difference. There is also the JD tuner to adjust the fueling yourself. Motosportz makes steering dampers for them and carries the Nomad tanks. Seat Concepts makes an awesome comfortable replacement foam and cover for the seat.
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  3. zxrider11

    zxrider11 Been here awhile

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    I researched the Husky 511, and it is a really great bike. But fuel range is going to be limited, and the gas tank is under the seat.

    You mentioned nothing about knarly single track - so have you researched any other bikes?

    Try taking a look at the KTM 690 Enduro R, it meets all your criteria listed above.
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  4. bobnoxious67

    bobnoxious67 Baby steps...

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    Are you looking at a new only purchase?
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  5. buls4evr

    buls4evr No Marks....

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    Really poor fuel range and no way to put on a bigger tank without rotopax. Otherwise great bikes.
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  6. JustRon

    JustRon ex-broadwayron

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    Why NOT?

    A close-ratio tranny. That's a deal breaker for me.
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  7. PatrickM

    PatrickM Been here awhile

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    Thanks all for the feedback, I'm still shopping and will be for a while, but all the responses have been useful.

    I'd prefer new because of warranty issues and there are simply too many variables to consider with a used model (oh gawd, what became a choice between 3-5 good bikes now triples). At least with new (2012-2013) I can narrow down the shopping list. Plus, if I want to finance it, it's a lot easier.

    The fuel... I thought these things got ~40-45 MPG so with a 2.5 gallon tank 100 miles was reachable. Checked on CafeHusky and yeah, guess it's not to be. I don't mind rotopax (have a 1 and a 2 gallon already) and of course a few MSR bottles. Crap.

    From what I'm reading about the close ratio tranny, it seems like it's okay with the six speeds, but I've read more favorable reports about the KTM and Husabergs. How much should I worry?

    The KTM 690R seems a bit heavy (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684435&page=3) comparing the options, though the EXC does seem to have the right tranny and aftermarket bits.

    Should I give a closer look/consideration to the KTM 540 or Husaberg because of the transmission?

    There has to be others who were in my position - what/why did you pick?!?
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  8. bobnoxious67

    bobnoxious67 Baby steps...

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    I would be all over the KTM 500 EXC based on all your criteria:deal
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    +1...... Best Enduro/DS per Dirt Rider, CWorld mags. A tested engine. Good fuel economy and big fuel tanks available. Stay away from Bergs. They change their engine designs non-stop. For 2013 it is back upright again and all re-designed.
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  10. SRG

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    Please explain the "stay away from Bergs". Their internal mechanicals are all KTM.
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    buls4evr No Marks....

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    2010..... engine conventional

    2011,12..... engine horizontal

    2013 .... engine conventional, again. But completely REDESIGNED.

    IMO, too much changing design is a recipe for disaster. Remember 80s Hondas? Clutch on right....clutch on left. Short stroke....NO long stroke... Pick a design and stick with it and develope it Berg. There was nothing wrong with their 2009 design. Don't make something DIFFERENT just to try to stand out. JMO.
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  12. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    Husaberg 2013 engines = those of KTM.

    Less weight & cost.

    Reliable material
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  13. Navin

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    The Burgs were all 70 degree engines from 09-2011. The guts, cylinders/heads are all KTM EXC parts built by KTM. The Burgs are KTMs. The 2012 Burgs are literally blue KTMs with suspensions being different but still KTM/WP stuff.

    The trans ratios are a huge difference. Aftermarket and factory hardparts are far more available for the KTMs, even the blue ones!
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  14. mrt10x

    mrt10x Dumba$s Jarhead

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    The close ratio transmission turned me off the Huskys and toward the 570 Berg. Wish now I had bought a KTM 500 though, just for the ease of getting more fuel on the bike.
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    Super valid + for the KTMs over the 70 degree Burgs.
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  16. Wildswolfe

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    I was in similar circumstances to you a year ago and traded in my '08 KLR for a leftover 2011 Beta 520RS. The 520RS doesn't have fuel injection, but otherwise meets your criteria. I had the dealer put on an available 3.8 gallon tank to address fuel range (I average around 50mpg so my range is normally 150+ miles) The KLR was getting too heavy for my 64 year old bones and I wanted a lighter bike when I dropped it offroad. I live in rural New Mexico at 7600' elevation where I'm close to National Forests and BLM lands with literally thousands of miles of unpaved roads, some graded gravel/dirt and some 4WD only. I use my Beta for overnight camping (with a Giant Loop Coyote bag over the seat) and exploring. Highway speeds getting to the forest are posted at 55 - 65 mph, which is pleasant on the Beta. Out on the interstate at 75mph is less pleasant, with vibrations from the knobbies (Pirelli MT21s) and windblast limiting my use of the slab to short distances <50 miles. I once longed for the F800GS for it's speed and carrying ability, but now realize as you have also, that away from the pavement lighter is better. I've had my 520RS up to 100mph, and I think it may hit 115, but with knobbies and without a fairing it's not much fun to endure speeds above 80mph for more than a few minutes. The Beta is not a tourer, although if I switched over to a less aggressive tire I think I would be more willing to spend time on the slab, and does not have the electrical capacity for running accessories, but it will go over more terrain than most of us are willing to risk.
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  18. VxZeroKnots

    VxZeroKnots Long timer

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    Owning a Husky with a close ratio 6 speed my next bike will be a KTM/BERG for the transmission alone. Everything else other than cost is probably about the same if not better on the Austrian hardware.
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    My choice having had a KTM 530 EXC, then buying a Husky TE-630 when they were blowing them out and then sold the KTM about 6 months later when my dealer was blowing out Husky TXC-449's for $5499 (CDN) would be the KTM 500 EXC if you are planning on only having one bike and budget is not an issue (locally a 2012 KTM 500 EXC is listed at $10,999 and a 2012 TE-511 is listed at $8371).

    The Husky 630 is IMO a better "dual purpose" bike than the KTM 530 and I like the Husky TXC-449 (which I have plated) better as a off road bike than the KTM 530 but I also really, really hate carbs so my opinion might be different if I had had a FI KTM 500 model to compare against. I also was able to sell a well used but well cared for 2008 KTM 530 EXC for enough $$$ to pay for the Husky 449 and a few accessories for it as well.
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  20. SRG

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    Buls4evr - got it, you don't know Bergs, but know to stay away from them.

    The expense of additional fuel tank(s) for the 70* Bergs is a valid point.

    The new ('13) Bergs are KTM's w/ different colors (KTM nixed the 70* motor - cost cutting? maybe - but not because it's design is somehow flawed).
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