Why NOT a TE-511 Husky?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by PatrickM, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Bigbugberg

    Bigbugberg Meatbucket Supreme

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    I chose the 690 because it has power for long slab at 70mph no problem, does B level single track (with some clutch fanning), and the maintenance interval is huge. I don't want to do an oil change mid way through a multi day dual sport.
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  2. FinnDuro

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    The race bred enduro bikes mentioned here are very similar to each other. The cost issue somewhat favours KTM, though. IMO, KTM resale value should be less of an issue than the other smaller brands, when it's time to move on to another/new bike. You may have a harder time selling a Husky or Berg, that's just the way it is. I love the looks of that new Husky, but when a nice little used sample of a 500 EXC Six Days came my way with similar price, I jumped on it without much hesitation.
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  3. LukasM

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    If you want FI and a wide ratio transmission, 09-12, 13+ Bergs and the 12+ KTM EXCs 500 are hard (impossible?) to beat. Both have proven reliable and performing engine designs, with the edge IMO going to the 70° 570 simply because it has been around longer, and racked up hundreds of thousands of miles in Dakar/Safari/other rally use. Beta put 20,000 miles on his in 6 months and it didn't miss a beat. Fuel is a bit of bit of pain right now, hopefully the 70° Racing subframe tank will become available again soon, then you have 12 liters in total without any change in ergos. Front and rear Safari tanks are also available.

    Whether you take a 12+ 500 or a 13+ Berg 501, not much difference there any more although I do prefer the plastic subframe as they are super tough, both when you crash and when you load them. At least that was the case with the earlier Bergs.
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  4. PatrickM

    PatrickM Been here awhile

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    Thanks Lukas and everyone! So far you folks have provided plenty of food for thought...

    1. Fuel range is a concern. The KTM's have a lot easier time with the aftermarket kits to resolve this, the Husky's are going to have to use a Rotopax or something else.

    2. Maintenance schedule on the light weight dirt oriented bikes. Moving up to the 690 class (includes the TE-610 class also) of 330 lbs (~80 lbs more) provides additional highway / slab comfort.

    3. Wide spaced transmission. Get it.

    Got to admit, spoiled with oil changes every 6000 (maybe 5000) or so miles and almost never having to check the valves on the newer "adventure" bikes. Is the 690R/TE-610 (huh, where did the TE-610 go?!?) close enough to the 500EXC that it makes much more sense to get, or is the Six-Days 500EXC still too sexy of machine to use as a true dual sport with off-road bias?
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  5. zxrider11

    zxrider11 Been here awhile

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    The 2012 KTM 690 Enduro weighs in at 313 pounds, and makes 66hp. Replace the stock exhaust cannister, and you will lose another 5-6 pounds.

    I have no complaints with the 690 in the single track. The great suspension, high ground clearance, and low 1st gear tackles the tight stuff pretty good. Tire choice and tire air pressure play a big role in the tight trails.

    I have also been averaging 50+ mpg dualsport riding with the 690, which gives it a 150+ mile fuel range on the 3.2 gallon take.

    The TE630 is about 20 pounds heavier, and makes less hp. I find that the TE630 is more street oriented.

    The TE610 is more comparable to the KTM 690 Enduro, but it only makes about 45-50hp.
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  6. PatrickM

    PatrickM Been here awhile

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    Again, thanks all!

    I hit the local KTM dealer and saw the latest 2013 500 EXC and 2013 690 Enduro R. Talking to the sales folk there, the opinion is that the 500 EXC is a great bike for western Nevada.

    Asking about maintenance and basically unless I'm racing it (or following a bunch of people and their roost) the 500 EXC isn't a maintenance nightmare. Oil changes ~500 and filter every other, or about once a month.

    When I sat on it, the 500 EXC felt high (30" inseam here!), but they said a low seat is one of the first mods they'd recommend, and if that wasn't good enough, they could modify the suspension components.

    Still, the 690 looks like a much easier horse to fall off of (and get back on), and if the exhaust weighs that much, it may be a much better option.

    So... 690 Enduro R looks like the leader right now. Seat height is good out of the crate, the maintenance is good, the weight (313#) is good and IIRC, the transmission is spaced just right.

    But the 690 is closer to my F800 than the 500 EXC (overlapping a bit more ground in the "dual sport" versus "adventure sport" area)

    However, it's good that it's now narrowed down to two solid bikes. Well, that and the 6-Day version of the 500 EXC that I can't seem to find anywhere!
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  7. zxrider11

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    Glad to see you were open to advise and did your homework.

    I had to travel 300 miles one-way to find my 2012 Enduro 690R. Negotiated the dealer down to $1,000 under MSRP.

    Have done 500 miles of dualsport & single track riding already with no complaints.
    First oil change was super easy.
    Fuel injection has been flawless.
    Engine is getting smoother, and gearbox is loosening up.

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  8. Whec716

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    KTM 500 EXC looks like a great bike. Make no mistake it is a street legal dirtbike. The drawback I found is that the oil needs to be changed every 12 to 15 hours.

    I went with the Yamaha wr250r, which I pick up today! Small gas tank, but replaceable if needed, and under 300lbs wet.
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  9. ggamster

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    Ok, ok, I know everyone will bust my balls for saying this, but you need the WR250R. I have had a lot of bikes. Check my profile. I can say for sure the WR 250R is just what you described. It us a proven design. It is fuel injected. If you take some of the shit off of it is is under 300lbs and rides light. It has long sevice intervals, it is fast top end then all but the 690, it is blue, you can get parts in every town. It will go anywhere any other bike will go and do it well. The seat is comfy. Large tanks are a vailable. It is only a 250 so my full coverage insurance is $8 a month. I can get the front end up in 1st and 2nd. I couldn't ask for more. I sold my tenere for this bike that is how great it is. also has a steel sub frame for gear. BTW the sell for under $6000. Think of what you can do with the other $3-4k
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  10. Navin

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    Says the guy who just bought a Husky 310??? :rofl
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  11. ggamster

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    I got worried I would break the wr with all the hard trail riding I was doing on it and because it is my daily ride (90miles a day) and my wife and I ride a lot on the road together. I couldnt put only off road spec. parts on it. Like full on knobbies, 47 tooth rear, wel I guess that is it but I dont want to replace the tires all the time and like my 60 mpg. I will still off road the wr but just wont be dropping it 5-10 times a weekend. You have to keep in mind I ride 50-100 miles of tight single track a weekend. Plus 10-20 miles a week day. Hell up to 20 miles of trail make up the 90 mile round trip to work. For example I hit a creek crossung this last sat and the bike flipped end over end. The front end was all out of wack. It was easy to fix fit if it had been worse I might not of had a ride to work on monday. withthe txc 310. If i fuck it up to bad it can sit a few days and it wont cost me vacation time or sick time :evil for that matter.
    BTW: 2012 wr250r forsale. never wrecked, never jumped, all highway miles $6499.99 pm me if you are interested:lol3
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  12. Rainshadow

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    Neduro just started a thread about his new 500. He's at the end of his break in phase and is only getting 29.5 mpg and he stated that he was taking it easy on the bike. Anybody have advice for him or is that what others are seeing. Sub 30 mpg is not what I'd call good fuel economy...

    Here's the quote:

    Here's his thread:

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834105
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  13. Subaru297

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    My vote would be for the 500EXC based on your criteria. I currently have a 530 and a friend with a 690. The 530 is better everywhere except maybe the highway. But even on the highway I can cruise faster than him. The EXC has a wider ratio transmission I believe.

    The only advantage to the 690 would be the maintenance issue. My friend and I have drag raced a few times on pavement and the bikes are pretty much dead even. He does usually pack more stuff than I do though so I certainly have a bit of a weight advantage. His is also a 2008 so the newer one does have a larger engine too.

    Maintenance is also much easier on the 530. Just like any other dirtbike. The few things I have helped with on the 690 showed me how frustrating it is to work on.

    I also have a WR250X and it is a great option as well but just not as smile inducing as the 530. It is not any more comfortable either after upgrading the 530's seat. Both bikes have seat concepts seats.

    From my limited experience on a Husky I would avoid them if you want to do any highway travelling. Short spaced tranny and vibey.

    Cheers
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  14. ggamster

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    From my limited experience on a Husky I would avoid them if you want to do any highway travelling. Short spaced tranny and vibey.

    Cheers[/QUOTE]

    I agree!
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  15. Foot dragger

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    The Huskys are neat bikes...........But KTM's have become so prevalent that the after market supports them more then most any dualsport thumper out there,virtually any trick thing you might want or need is already being built and sold.
    This alone makes them a great choice,all bikes get personalized,lotsa choices on the orange bikes.

    + They work great and KTM is dead serious about making them better each year.
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  16. BaronVonDarrin

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    The 630 has longer travel ~9" vs ~13", no issues with its FI, and I do not believe it is any heavier dry. I would rather be on the 630.

    I love my te630. I did a lot of thinking on this subject. I wanted something lighter than my 950, something that could still maybe do some easier single track for a newb like me, something without a ton of maintenance I could easily ride to work as well, and still would let me own ONE BIKE TO DO THEM ALL since I am extremely space restricted here.

    With the 630, I think I made the right choice. It is a jack of trades, and not a underachieving pile of one either. It is pretty well above average at everything and that is exactly what I wanted. I have enjoyed every minute of it so far. Intervals are good, feels like a feather compared to my 950 :rofl, and still has power to put smile on my face. Tranny is pretty wide too, much more so than the 511 sort. I feel comfortable on the highway... as much as I can in this death trap.

    I have however considered going even smaller and am considering looking into a Christini 450 DS if I do (they are even based out of Philly where I currently live) but am unsure what the maintenance is like or if the tranny will be a close ratio chore...

    however... if anyone could put that AWD shiz on my 630... I think a two wheel drive 630 would be even better than CJs AWD 950 :p, think the 600 mid sizers would be excellent with that shiz.
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  17. Foot dragger

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    You must have different singletrack where you live,Ive yet to see anyone on a 630/690/650 out on the singletrack here in nor cal.
    A 2 stroke is too heavy sometimes,200's are preferable. Just thinking about riding a 300+lb bike on singletrack makes my body hurt. My 530 can be coaxed through but Id hate to slide it off the edge of the uglier stuff.
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  18. Foot dragger

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    2 wheel drive on a 630 would add maybe 25lbs? That would be interesting. Lighter then a 950 but ...............
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