Why you should NOT buy a Ural motorcycle

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by bokad, May 28, 2012.

  1. SkagitStan

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    This thread makes me think of arguments declaring which is the "worst" dog breed.
    I have Malamutes (and a Ural). Mals are my favorite breed. They are not a breed for everyone.

    Some folks say Mals (Urals) are a shit breed because they suffer from selective hearing, they don't win speed races, sometimes are a bit clumsy going around corners. They can be amazingly independent, and love to argue. They don't fetch frisbees (they prefer a catch-and-chew policy), they are amateur landscapers, and they shed incredible amounts of fur. Like other large breeds, they don't live as long, and are more prone to breakdowns out of the factory (like bad hips from iffy breeders), than little yap-yaps. Without proper care and maintenance they will break down sooner than the yap-yap.

    So why would someone get one? Hopefully, because after doing their research, and committing to the training and care, they will find that there is really someone in there...(or a bike with some personality and challenge). Not just a loud, zoomie little rat, or a dull witted setter (not that there's anything wrong with loud, zoomie little rats, or dull witted setters:deal). A Mal(Ural) is someone they can work with, learn with, even argue with. Mals are incredibly intelligent, Urals not so much. A Mal (Ural) is someone that can go places with you that you'd never dare take a chihuahua, and also take into town. A general purpose working dog with a lineage that is close to the original that first hooked up with people. It isn't an over-bred, over-refined single-purpose unit.

    Some folks get a Mal (Ural) WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO because of how incredibly cute a Mal puppy (Ural picture/UDF) is. When adolescence hits, they then want to dump the dog instead of working to make it a great pet. It's not the dog's problem, it's the owner's problem.:cry

    If you want a turnkey, no effort dog, don't get a Mal. If you want a turnkey, no effort bike, don't get a Ural. But, if you're willing to put in the effort and understanding, you will find both bring great reward.:clap

    :beer
  2. davide

    davide Been here awhile

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    If you want a turnkey, no effort dog, don't get a Mal. :clap
  3. immulmen

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    True,,,,,,,,,get a Boarder Colly, it's not hard to teach a dog that constantly wants to be told what to do,,,,,,Just don't leave it home all day because it will find something to do and you probably won't like what it does. Like chewing up the couch because he can't get the ball from under it. And they need constant attention just like some Motorcycles!
    See they all have problems!!!!!!
  4. JerseyBlues

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    This thread's gone to the dogs...:D
  5. Prmurat

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    So far so good!!! Just wait till the SS crowd get this into republican vs democrat flame!!! We can't be lucky that long: they should start soon insulting everyone!!!
  6. windmill

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    Hey now, be fair,

    Myself, and many of the "SS crowd" don't participate in those "dog fights".
  7. rob_w

    rob_w n00b

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    My experience:
    I own a 06 tourist, which I bought new. I commute with it everyday, except in the winter, though I do not go on the expressways with it. I also use it for utility, hauling whatever I can fit into the tub, when the need arises. I own two other motorcycles which remain in storage. When I researched Ural in 2005-6 I knew what I was getting into, and had expected to possibly spend money after warranty period for any failure, but so far the only money spent has been for basic maintenance. Because the maintenance is so easy, I find myself checking things far more often than recommended intervals. As of now, both of my cylinder heads are cracked, and have been for a few years, I am monitoring this and keeping an eye on the alternator bearings. I have had warranty work done, where a cylinder and piston were replaced, I have been through 3 pairs of those ridiculous compliance fittings, just recently switching to Mikuni’s. I’ve seen the paint on my gas tank melt off before my eyes.. My starter never works, (think just a relay problem) spokes loosten up, pusher wheel bearings shot after 5000k , have to put air in the tires every week <gasp> I know my story isn’t that bad, Hell this is the only motorcycle I’ve ever ridden that I actually do a “safety check” before I ride, This machine requires your love, and money… hopefully not to much of the latter. I tell people the truth in my UDF sessions too, It’s a Russian piece of crap, its not for everyone, but I love it.
  8. ruckuschick

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  9. ruckuschick

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    so what is the best breed of dog to ride in the sidecar of a Ural?
  10. jackstrat

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    Wow, is this thread still going?

    My two cents: If you own it, you can complain about it. Period.

    I loved our '07 Ural. Wish we still had it. Been looking over Ural.com the past few months. Drool. Wipe. Drool.

    The Ural was / is the first motorcycle I bought where the dealer (Mike from Wagners) spent 5+ hours in orientation, including how to adjust valves, carbs, you name it. Geez, the HD dealer spent like 5 minutes in orientation for a $20K motorcycle (only to find out you can start the dang thang without a key, talk about bright and modern engineering!)

    We had zero problems with the Ural, but not sure I would have taken it too terribly far from home, but many have.

    I think they are overpriced, but if you break the costs down it ain't too far off the mark: Tug is worth at least $5,000, the sidecar another $5,000, reverse another $1000, 2WD another $1000, cool leading link forks: $1500, etc., yep, it adds up...

    Thanks for an entertaining thread!

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  11. kailuasurfer

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    +1 only bike that I "safety check" before EVERY ride. I ride my '98 Sportsman everywhere for everything around town (except for getting on highways with speed limit above 50 mph :eek1).

  12. davide

    davide Been here awhile

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    A mutt adopted from a high kill shelter!
  13. MartyL

    MartyL Been here awhile

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    Is that really needed here in this post? I'm sorry sir but that's just not cool. You left SS because of the Soap box section and you moved on. How do you stand up in the,"yo momma" section of this forum. Let the bad blood go and rise above.
  14. Prmurat

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    You are right on only one point: I moved on .... The rest was just SARCASM (sorry there is not the special to show this like on SS... ). Sorry you did not get it.
  15. rxcoop

    rxcoop persnickety curmedgeon

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    Kawalasers fake noob? :scratch

    any real reason you chose to quote the ENTIRE original post just to make this 3 word comment ?

    musta thought the whole world had unlimited bandwidth. <label for="rb_iconid_26">[​IMG]</label>
  16. Schatzman

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    Most of the Ural "issues" I have heard of are dealer related. I feel lucky that I have a great Ural mechanic down the road from me. While yes, Ural had major issues, they have done a great deal in the recent years to upgrade the bikes. The only major issue I had was a blown rear drive. I had it out and replaced in one day. I love my Ural and don't miss my BMW at all. In my opinion, most of the newer bikes with sidecars look like shit. I have yet to see a GS with a sidecar I would ever want. I haven't seen many hacks that would do as well off road as the Ural. If I was doing highway and light dirt, then I would not get a Ural. If I was doing hardcore off road what sidecar besides a Ural would you suggest?
  17. Poacher Bob

    Poacher Bob Persona non grata

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    musta thought the whole world had unlimited bandwidth. <LABEL for=rb_iconid_26>[​IMG]</LABEL>[/QUOTE]

    ^^^This^^^ what kind of oil should i put in my Ural? :evil
  18. howell_jd

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    Oil is a good idea.

    Jonathan
  19. JerseyBlues

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    It seems that a lot of people that own and enjoy Urals get along...naturally.

    I guess "enjoy" is the operative word.

    LEOs, Military, Vets, nurses and music teachers. Truck drivers, salespeople, electricians, IT people. Surveyors, contractors, web developers, professional bloggers. I think there's even a minister in Canada that owns one and gets along with everybody. Well, ok- ministers usually get along with everybody anyways...
  20. Eaglebeak

    Eaglebeak Aussie BM rider, West Oz.

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    You are joking, aren't you ?

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    This one above had just crossed the Simpson Desert in Australia. Heaps of sandhills. More reliable than a new Ural.

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    All these featured outfits do a lot of rough riding.

    Yes, I've heard the arguments about gaining lots of mechanical aptitude during Ural ownership. I've been there and done that on my early BMW airheads.
    (and my airheads didn't have the one and only bolt holding the tappet cover on, strip the thread because Ural weren't clever enough to add two more 10 nuts to each end of the cover like a BM has. How hard would that piece of engineering "smarts" take.)

    People claim the early Urals were 60's technology and now the new ones are 80's technology.
    I don't think so.

    I knew many, many 80's BM airheads that didn't have cylinders replaced, rear ends fail, etc.

    When I'm in outback Australia, I want reliability, first and foremost.


    I understand many Ural owners love their outfits and good on 'em I say!
    I am glad you are all happy with your purchases.

    To each, their own.

    Bike riding and ownership IS all about the bond between rider and bike. Car drivers will never understand that.

    BUT, the OP's comments are still valid in my opinion.
    You pay a lot of money for a product that is not that reliable.

    Peace and riding harmony to you all. :raabia :beer