Why you should NOT buy a Ural motorcycle

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by bokad, May 28, 2012.

  1. SilkMoneyLove

    SilkMoneyLove Long timer

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    The Ural has low compression (like 8.6 to 1) compared to more modern bikes having at least 11 to 1 compression ratios. Engine braking is less effective in low compression engines.
    That said, I would use my brakes more that my engine for braking. Brake pads are cheap, clutches aren't. I would use it some but sparingly.
    My Ural had wiring issues, but that was due to age and the previous owners tinkering.
    The only brake failure I have ever experienced was on a Sportster and I was running it too fast down a mountain road. The brakes just went soft and then it felt like they were greased. I was able to slow it down and change my pace.
    Riding a sidecar is a thinking persons game. You have to plan ahead for turns , hills and stops.
  2. Nialis

    Nialis Super Motarded

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  3. Nialis

    Nialis Super Motarded

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    I have only ever killed one clutch and that was my track bike... After a few hundred thousand miles and lots of downshifting and engine braking with both wet and dry clutches, I must be one lucky bastard.
  4. matman1972

    matman1972 Lost in the woods.

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    I'll admit I hate mine. But its sort of a codependant, we know we're going to end up killing each other but we just can't let go sort of hate. I feel like quagmire tied up by a bunch of sadistic chicks. You know your balls are going to get busted, but you kind of look forward to it.
  5. perterra

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    :rofl:rofl

    I dont own a Ural, but I'd love to have one. I do believe some people arent cut out for one, just like some people arent cut out for owning vintage British iron, or vintage any kinda iron for that fact. Yeah it sucks they have gotten expensive but why complain, a lot of shit has gotten expensive lately, look at rib eyes.

    I would have more sympathy for Bokie if he had posted I hate my Ural and this is why, instead it's I hate my Ural and this is why, and you should hate your Ural too because of my experience, and your dumb if you dont hate your Ural. The bike wasnt for him, but I got to say I think he jumped into this not doing a lot of research. Sure you can read Cobs reports and it sounds like it was a nice ride with minimal trouble, thats because for Cob it probably was a nice ride with minimal trouble. I'm not sure Bokie has the same tech skills as Cob does.
  6. perterra

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    I agree for the most part, but the harping is getting old. If someone is enjoying their Ural, why try to convince them they are a dumbass for doing so. Riding a Ural around the world doesnt mean he should be able to dictate who enjoys what bike. Fuck he could be my ex wifes noob for the way he is acting.
  7. DavePave

    DavePave Been here awhile

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    I've read the whole thread and can't find the post where Bokad sites his brake failure.

    Are we talking about a situation of overheating and brake fade? Or are we talking about broken parts?

    Brake overheating, leading to brake fade is a known issue with drum brakes. You can only push them so far. It was true in the 1950's as well as today. Back in the day, they used to have pull-offs on the down side of steep grades in the Rockies for people cool their brakes. On the other side of the road is where they usually had water tanks for steaming radiators. My dad had issues with many of his used cars, so he always carried extra water of his own. But learned the hard way about brake fade (pulling a camper) so he learned to stop often.

    Drum brakes do over heat and fade. The driver is expected to know that and plan for it.

    That's partly why the state of the business has changed and disc brakes are the more common.

    Premature brake part failure is a different issue.
  8. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    I saw an interview with the director of "Bullitt", who was filming from the passenger seat of Steve McQueen's Mustang during the canyon sequence. Steve McQeen told him "put yer belt on", The director asked why, and Steve said "cuz we just lost the brakes". Did he engine brake and coast to the side? No, he rode it all the way to the bottom and it was all filmed. Why did he take the risk? Because he was Motherfarking Steve McQueen, that's why!

    If Steve had a Ural he'd have stopped it Fred Flintstone style, even if his Redwings caught fire!
  9. JustKip

    JustKip Long timer

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    He did indeed say that everybody should avoid Ural based on his opinion. He also stated that it was Opinion in the first post, then went on to say why we should all share that opinion. He also admits being a "n00b to chairs", and not knowing what he was getting into as far as high maintanance goes,
    but that don't mean he ain't still out there and having fun...
    From this thread...last entry was this week

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=801790


    BTW, I don't have a Ural, yet...still not sure about 2WD or the much more attractive (to me) Retro since dirt roads is about the extent of my needs.
    but I've had 4 1940's - 50's Jeeps and have a real good idea of what I'm getting into
  10. Schatzman

    Schatzman I Saved Latin

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    How is this thread still going? This is beyond beating a dead horse. This is like beating, raping, and sodomizing a dead horse.
  11. SilkMoneyLove

    SilkMoneyLove Long timer

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    This thread makes me think of Blazing Saddles..."rape, Mayhem, robbery and rape"
    "you said rape twice"
    "I like rape"
    "ha ha he'll do"
  12. dbigkahunna

    dbigkahunna Whopeee

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    Welder,inspector and married 24 years to a redhead.
    God looked down and determined his "Special" people. Some speak to things not there, others get Ural's.
  13. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy dbigkahnna,

    Welcome to ADV-Rider and the hacks forum, your going to fit well here in the asylum. :wink:
  14. 666

    666 Agnostic and Orange

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    Totally true.
    Soviet made clothing was garbage.
    Russian vodka was OK in major cities, but in the country was usually diluted or just crap. I was only drinking absolut.
    URALS were garbage (back in the day), dont know about now. People would buy and rebuild them right away. Frankly there wasnt much choice.
  15. PLANofMAN

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    Pg. 74, post #1108
  16. oppozit

    oppozit Banned

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    The Soviet Union has been gone for 20 years! Just when was "back in the day"? Remember when it was "Japanese Junk" and "Korean Crap"? Nowadays lots of great brands are Japanese and Korean. There are lots of great Russian firms making good products, mostly they don't export. "Poligon" makes great winter clothing for the "military" market. IMZ/Ural unfortunately still hasn't learnt the quality control proceedures needed to sell to a western market.
  17. TomTom63

    TomTom63 Motorradfahrer

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    I'm a glutton for punishment. Just pulled the trigger on a 2012 Gear-Up. ...my second Ural sidecar rig :D Let the misery begin ... :wings
  18. TriplePete

    TriplePete Been here awhile

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    I have ridden modern motorcycles for the past 12 years since having a motorcycle license. Reliable trouble free motorcycling for the past decade. I had the pleasure of meet Mr. Cobb and his Ural buddy Dave at a Loadedpalooza ride a few years back when they were sporting a pair of Urals. The fun they had never left my mind and so now I own one. Without doing any research on Ural sidecars, I seen a 2006 Patrol at a dealer and bought it after a short test ride. The price seemed fair and the rig looked beautiful - the Fun - most i have had on any motorcycle! Wife and dog love it.

    I expect to have issues, but I am mechanically inclined. It's an old design, hand crafted in a small town in Russia - what else is hand made these days that dont cost an arm and a leg?

    You can add a sidecar to any modern motorbike and have super reliability - but not at Ural prices (or beauty). Ural sidecar design geometry is a proven design -

    I think my family and i will enjoy the Patrol for years to come and we are willing to deal with the growing pains. Of course I still have a modern motorbike for those long touring rides.

    Oh, and here is a video I found on Irbit Ural

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  19. pjm204

    pjm204 Long timer

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    I read through the thread and bought an 06 tourist this weekend. Looking forward to all the fun you foilhats are having.
  20. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy pjm204,

    Welcome to the wacky world of Ural's. i don't think this thread has turned out the way bokad had intended rather then put folks off from buying a Ural, reading through it, it would appear that its one of the best sales brochures ever produced. :D