Why you should NOT buy a Ural motorcycle

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by bokad, May 28, 2012.

  1. montrealon3

    montrealon3 n00b

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    Black Stalin (2009 Patrol-T). In satin black and maroon pin stripe. 74,000km later it's a love hate thing. I got the bike end of season 09. Here is the list of parts and trouble Black Stalin has put me through. A small amount of the work was done by the dealer till he went out of business here in our neck of the woods (Montreal). Then it was up to me dealing with Ural Canada shipping parts or me driving to them. Over 1000km round trip.
    : drive shaft seal. Weeping oil out between universal joint and final drive yoke.
    : complete alternator and coupler system.
    : alternator coupler system
    : 2 rubber donut couplers till finally the 3rd was the new improved version. Still going. Good job Ural.
    : rubber carb flange between carb and intake. Split.
    : 2 starters
    : all 4 wheels. Hub core play. Hubs not designed for SKF bearings.
    : all wheel bearings. Changed along with the wheel change.
    : 2WD shaft and drive assembly on sidecar.
    : battery
    : gas tank. Leaking along seem.
    : found hole in sidecar frame tubing. Water getting in. Small. Filled with silicon. Poor welding.
    : valve adjustment nut came off. Running only one cylinder. Tow to dealer. Bike was new at time. No chances.
    : sidecar windshield vinyl replaced. Stretches around eyelets.
    : major transmission failure. Main bearing and bearing housing. Design flaw. New transmission.
    : at same time they (Ural Canada) said engine and final drive defective. Changed for new. It took 3 months.
    : carbs not balanced when received bike.
    : new engine defective. Compression too low. When hot no power on take off and won't maintain idle and misfires.
    Received bike back after warranty was over. Stored over winter. Come spring found these problems mentioned above after all drive systems where changes.
    Ural Canada and Ural USA. left me hanging. Thanks.
    Sending bike to a very experienced mechanic in my area to fix at my cost.
    It's a love hate thing.
    My next purchase will be a Honda xr650l.
  2. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass Awful Kanauphyl

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  3. Berger

    Berger Long timer

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    Yup, that sounds like Ural Canada for sure. The BS about the bearings in the hubs seems to be their new line. I have not had an issue with SKF bearings at all since 2007. The new engine should be covered for one year, Ural policy, but I guess that depends on when it was put in. Some of the issues you are experiencing with the new engine sound like improper setup, and depending on the mechanic at UC, almost guaranteed.. I am in Ottawa, so if you ever need assistance, I am not that far.
  4. FR700

    FR700 Heckler ™©®

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  5. Northern Rob

    Northern Rob Con Brio!

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    Another reason not to buy a Ural. The steel is too thick. This is a hazard for cars. I got hit by an SUV today. I was stopped at a stop sign. Driver made a left turn into my street, but turned into my lane and hit the sidecar and the front tire. I'm sore but Ok. SUV has front fender damage. Ural has scratch on front sidecar armour paint. Front tire was hit too, but still rides true. Nothing on bike seems bent or otherwise damaged. I drove her home. That low tech thick steel is a real problem. Adventure bikes should be made out of plastic :lol3
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  6. GeezerStank

    GeezerStank Been here awhile

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    Ha! didn't even scratch your ADV sticker....:lol3
  7. BeemerChef

    BeemerChef Wandering Homeless

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    That is a lot of damage for a Ural! :D:D:D

    Keep in mind it also does not do so well in deep sand and rocks... :norton:eek1

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    Ara and Spirit
  8. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Yep, JerryH researched it. :rofl
  9. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy All,

    Well...........I think a Ural ridden properly goes quite well in deep sand, this video was taken a few years back and is of my stock rig with the low hanging mufflers. As you can see later inthe video when I drive down and over the large rocks the darn stock mufflers stop the rig by getting hung-up on the rocks.
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    I have some video of the "Predator" down at Moab but I haven't posted it to youtube yet, I'll get to work on that and see if I have some of it in deep sand and going over rocks. The pipes on the Predator are much higher then the stock ones and don't get hung-up on stuff like the stock exhaust systems do.
  10. DaFoole

    DaFoole Well Marbled...

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    Another great video. :clap

    Thanks Ara
  11. Smoke Eater 3

    Smoke Eater 3 Long timer

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    I bought a Ural chair for my BMW. I know it's blasphemy but I'm really happy with the set up. I had to fabricate a brake attachment but so far it's been nothing but good. Not having a Ural motor might have something to do with that but if you are looking for just the side hack then Urals are quite good.
  12. BeemerChef

    BeemerChef Wandering Homeless

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    It is not blasphemy. We have both. They are two very different machines. :)

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  13. Tengai In Toronto

    Tengai In Toronto Been here awhile

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    Not sure if anyone mentioned this... because I don't want to read 110 pages of this thread to find out. But apparently until their demise, used Yugos were often sold for much more than new ones, because buyers knew that all the faulty factory parts had to have been replaced by the time they were sold second-hand. Not sure how this relates, or if its even relevant to the Ural discussion, just find it interesting, and in the realm of sketchy Euro vehicles.

    That being said, I'd love a Ural. If a sorted used one popped up around here I'd be all over it!
  14. tattoogunman

    tattoogunman Been here awhile

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    That seems to be the consensus with Ural as well (the "used sorted out" part), but price is another matter. I've seen many a used Ural put up for sale at a decent price. I've also seen many a used Ural put up for sale where the person was trying to get the same price (or more) for their used rig as it cost new (bone stock mind you).

    I've wanted one for years and I'm willing to accept their shortcomings and faults. I don't ride fast anyway, I like to wrench, my kids absolutely love them, and I like the old school aspect of them. I've got one lined up that I'm hoping to pick up in the next few weeks :clap

    Now just keep what I said in mind up there when I post up my first "my Ural broke" posts and I'm all ticked off :evil
  15. eastbloc

    eastbloc comprador bourgeois

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    I think this is BS. No one wanted a Yugo desperately enough to pay more for a used one than for a new one. They'd just buy a used Honda instead. New ones had warranties, after all.

    Plus, most of the things that broke on Yugos were piddly crap like window cranks, door latches, climate control cables, and so forth. There weren't any significant problems with the Yugo drivetrain or running gear.

    Yes, I had a Yugo for years. I bought it used for $200 with 30,000 miles on it. It was a great little car, providing you could live with manual steering.
  16. windmill

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    Man oh man, you got hosed
    I got a Yugo right after they went out of business, 4800 miles on it for $300.

    It was a fun little car to drive, kinda like a go cart and was awesome off road and in the snow. Only thing I ever had to fix was the head gasket, took a couple of hours and cost like $12.

    I much prefer a few minor, easy, low cost repairs every now and then over todays low maintenance "reliable" vehicles that cost a fortune to repair when they do break..........................as they all eventually do.
  17. BinDerSmokDat

    BinDerSmokDat Been here awhile

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    I bought a new Patrol T in 2010.
    Other than the frequent oil changes and a few exhaust flange gaskets (from banging the exhaust on ruts and stuff) it has been very reliable.
    I ride in the Pines frequently and all winter.
    Yes, it is quirky. Yes the oil changes come a little more frequent than I would like.
    Expect to spend about an hour or so sorting out fluid changes and lubing things at regular intervals and after hardcore off-roading/drowning the bike.
    Maybe 2 hours checking all the service items like lube points and adjusting valves at the bigger service intervals.
    Once you know what to look for/do you can reduce those times.

    Yes a Ural based on 70 yeard old technology. Yes quirks and weaknesses pop up from time to time.
    But many users have experienced thousands of mile so trouble free riding.

    The only thing I'd do different is buy used and save myself a few bucks.
    My initial concerns over mechanical breakdowns/warranty prodded me to buy new.

    All the problems I've ever experienced were "user interface" problems.
    "That water isn't THAT deep."
    "Hey guys, watch this!"
    "Oh I was suppose to grease that?"
    "I could use 3WD about now."

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  18. Montague

    Montague UDF Adventurer

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    It's the machine to have in the event of a meteor or other form of apocalypse!
  19. BeemerChef

    BeemerChef Wandering Homeless

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    That's good! It is exactly what you wrote. With 5000Km's on ours, no problems.
    Must is a spare air filter ready. We are in very fine dust conditions off road here and the filter will clog up as fast as 300~400Km's. [I learned that the hard way!]
    We never had so much fun! :D
    That's the reason you should never buy a Ural! :deal

    Stay well, Ara and Spirit

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  20. BeemerChef

    BeemerChef Wandering Homeless

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    I wish we had footage of the locals scrambling on Urals after the Meteor hit... Ural area. What a commercial that would be! Priceless.

    Ara and Spirit