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Discussion in 'Hacks' started by bokad, May 28, 2012.
And this post should close the SS discussion!!! Thks for your input Thermos!
He has trouble with that.
..."Mom SS : look what they are saying on us in ADV... Cry cry cry, we may say anything we want about the world but, cry, cry, cry don't dare to say something about us, cry, cry, cry"
You don't seem to take your own advice very well.
If you don't like the soap box at SS......its really easy.......don't go there. Enjoy the information contained elsewhere on the site and have a great day. If you get your gundies in a bunch and can't straighten them out-just stay away from what knots them up in the first place....really easy. Otherwise or put on the ole big boy pants, man up and hold your own ground-give and take.
The usual "love it or leave it" BS right?
Let extreme rightist spread their ideas and just ignore it?? Maybe... It worked so well in 30' in Europe or here during the senator McCarthy...
And of course not to forget the intelligent personal attacks and name calling (specially at beer o'clock!).
My neighbor, a farmer down the road from me bought a used Ural bike and let me tell you....it was funny as hell! He was super excited the first time he rode it.......he left for his first ride and never came back.....3 hours later he shows up all tired asking me for a ride. He walked 2 or 3 miles (we live in the outskirts where nobody lives and no cars had passed him). The engine went out on the first short ride of more than several miles.....main bearing. He fixed it and about 3 months later he was riding and the wheel bearing failed in the rear wheel hub.
And he made fun of me buying a Jap bike. Look whose laughing now. I had a Jawa bike (british) and it was MUCH MUCH better than the Ural bikes could ever hope to be. Jawa required some maintenance, but they were solid runners and much more reliable than Urals. Still they were not considered highly reliable, but I LAUGH at anyone that thinks Urals are good bikes and can honestly say it with a straight face..... In the words of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour.... "here's your sign".
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'Whose house is of glass, must not throw stones at another.'
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
Prmurat, you are the definition of the word.
You steadfastly refuse to recognize the incontrovertible fact that you have unjustly condemned an entire group of people for the opinions of a few, and have chosen an inappropriate venue to do it
You're so full of hate and intolerance you have completely failed to grasp that I, and many others agree with you, and don't condone the narrow minded opinions and attitudes of a few.
They don't speak for me or the members I personally know, and you have absolutely no right to imply that they do.
Funny how you took the liberty to edit my posts to suit your rhetoric ... If a group is not able to ban the "few" (your words!!!!) spreading hate and all the ism previously previously mentioned, could you explain why this group should not be denounced as a whole? Try to be intelligent and not mention the short closing of The Soap Box ...
Because we believe in free speech. You too have the right to speak freely. However, when you lump an entire group of people into a category based on the actions of a few, you yourself have become just as bigoted as those you accuse.
Since you've spent 25% of your time at Steeds in the Soap Box, you too would be included in any generalization thrown at that forum by someone else. However, instead of acknowledging your faults, you choose to hop from forum to forum spewing vitriol at others while claiming to be righteous yourself.
They ALL do that..
I bought a USED VOLVO and the dam thing broke down. [I am not going to tell you how old it was or how many miles it had, what engine it had or what I checked and serviced before I started driving it!] It was 18 years old and had 350,000 miles! Dam Volvo's are so undependable!
You need to get your facts straight. Jawa is not a British manufactured bike.
"JAWA Motokov is a motorcycle manufacturer based in Czech Republic."
Kinda makes the rest of your post suspect.
Just when you think and hope a post has died there is always someone who just can't hold back from poking the hornets nest.
Just my 2 cents. Both sides are guilty of throwing vitriol into the mix at SS and just as that is the case neither side can see that they did it.
Everyone has their opinions and ideals and I will fight to the death to defend their right to do so. That being said I likely will not agree with 50% of the posts in SS and no amount of name calling and comparing to the Third Reich will change that FROM EITHER SIDE.
People need to take a breath and realize that just because someone thinks differently then them it's not a frigging personal attack. Grow a spine and realize that people will disagree with you. It doesn't mean they are bad or are out to get you it simply means they have a different viewpoint, garnered from their beliefs and personal history.
Everyone learns from their own experiences and as such will come to conclusions based on what they perceive. No 2 people will every 100% of the time be in total agreement as no 2 people will every have exactly the same experiences in life from which to draw information from.
Am I on both ADV and SS. Yup. Do I spend more time on SS. Yup it's a site dedicated to the bike I currently ride and there is valuable information contained in the multitude of members who have BTDT or already fixed the problem I'm experiencing. Do I venture here and look at posts. Yes as there is valuable information on this site as well. The difference is on ADV I don't feel like I'm going to my friends house for a beer after work I feel like I'm going into a huge corporation where I am a number rather than a name. At SS I've contacted members by phone, mail, in person etc. I feel like I know them. It feels like family. And since it feels like family I know that there will be some I tend to avoid just like "Uncle Joe" at the wedding. Roll with the punches but understand never will everyone agree with you. The sooner you realize that the happier you will be in the long run. It's not the destination but the travels along the way that are important, right? Isn't that why we all ride and pick bugs out of our teeth?
Prmurat, thanks for the advertising... Soviet Steeds always welcomes new members and you bringing us up might encourage just that when folk who need helpful assistance in repairing their Russian rig, finding out about Russian rig gatherings, sharing ride adventures, meeting nice folk from all over the globe, looking to buy or sell Russian rig related merchandise, learning about cool modifications, and just plain helping people with their passion for motocycles. Thanks a million!!!
I wonder if we should nominate Prmurat as a SS ambassador of good will?
He's for sure having a more joyus life than Prmurat That dude is angry!:huh
You've apparently not seen this...
Church, State & Money
Are you really that obtuse?
I said that I agree with you that there are some vitriolic right wingers. Unfortunatly you have obviously chosen to ignore that, and that there are also vitriolic left wingers, who both choose, like you, to condemn everyone who doesn't think exactly like you.
Freedom of speech* goes both ways, banning only one side is censorship.The soapbox was temporary suspended because both sides went too far.
No matter how many excuses and justifications you make, it doesn't change the fact that you are guilty of unjustly stereotyping an entire group of people on this forum.
You seem to think this is some sort of philosophical debate, it is not, you are spreading hate and intolerance here, you are simply being called on it.
*Freedom of speech doesn't include slander.