So I've been riding with Widder vests and arm chaps for about two years, and of all equipment we own (including boots), our vests are the lamest. The quality of construction's fine, but turning the nob to Dark Toast feels more like Cool Day to me. So then you put on those Mickey-Mouse arm chaps in an attempt to get warm, making your arms warm in spots and cold elsewhere. What am I missing? I am sure there are contrary opinions on this board. Widder lovers, defend thyselves.