Width at the foot pegs

Discussion in 'Trials' started by motojunky, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. motojunky

    motojunky Professional Idiot

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    At an event this past Saturday, one section had a 'notch' between two large rocks on my line. One could squeeze through the notch or drop off of one of the rocks. The drop wasn't too bad, you just needed to carry the front end a little to keep the skid plate clear on the way down. Looking at the two choices, the notch looked better to me. I brushed the pegs going through on the first loop and didn't make any contact on the next three. I saw only one other rider go that way and he hit pretty hard with his pegs going through.

    That got me wondering about how much trials bikes vary in width at the foot pegs. My Scorpa measures 18 7/8 inches at the pegs. I'm curious about other bikes. If you're bored, please measure your peg width and post a reply. There's nothing to gain from this other than to satisfy my odd curiosity. :D

    thanks!
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  2. ADVCoop

    ADVCoop Been here awhile

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    1992 Gas Gas GT25 = 19" end to end of pegs
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  3. wb22rules

    wb22rules Bourbon Tester

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    Same on a 2001 321 TXT
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  4. SherpaT

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    2012 GasGas - 19"

    1982 Cota 200 - 16.5"

    I never noticed there was that much difference between them!

    That was a fun trials Saturday, except maybe that hateful mud section. :lol3
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  5. motojunky

    motojunky Professional Idiot

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    Does the Cota have teeny tiny little pegs like a lot of vintage bikes do? :D That is a pretty big difference in width.

    A good time indeed! I actually got lucky and cleaned section 5 (the mudder) once. Wasn't able to duplicate it though.
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  6. lineaway

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    Just had to check the cota after seeing the post!
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  7. lineaway

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    Like to see the pegs on a Beta rev 3. I always hated dragging those thru a notch!
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  8. Ymirtrials

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    I measure my rev to be 18 7/8"... think it used to be 19" though..:D
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  9. joe cool

    joe cool Been here awhile

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    I've got 18 and 1/2" on my Rev 3 with Hebo pegs. I highly recommend these over the stock ones. The stock ones are like cups for mud.
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  10. Monty348

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    I measured the TR34 Campionato. 18 1/2" with the factory pegs. Seems like a common width. Makes me think there's a reason. Might be a compromise between balance and width.

    New Windsor is always fun. I wasn't a fan of section 7! Ouch!
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  11. Ymirtrials

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    Since mine are getting a bit beat I was thinking of getting a set of Costa pegs, bit pricy but they seem really tough and grippy.
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  12. motojunky

    motojunky Professional Idiot

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    Measured a 315r Montesa today at 18 1/2 inches.

    Interesting how close they all seem to be. I'd like to measure some vintage bikes also.
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  13. lineaway

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    `75 and `78 sherpa t`s 17.25.
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  14. SherpaT

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    1983 Cota 349 - 18.25" x 1.25"

    1982 SWM TL320 - 16.0" x 1.25"

    I had to measure the SWM 3 times before I believed it! :huh I think some modified pegs are in order.
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  15. cholla

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    I just measured my 2005 Montesa Cota 4RT @ 18-7/8"
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  16. NMTrailboss

    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    2005 Montesa 4RT with new S3 pegs - 18 3/4".
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  17. motobene

    motobene Motoing for 44 years

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    My Raga 300 width peg tip to peg tip is 19.4" with RQ forged aluminum pegs (Sherco OEM pegs) . Perhaps the RQ are the longest pegs available? They are longer than the S3 machined aluminum pegs and investment cast steel pegs I also have.

    Modern bikes place pegs lower and they are wider. That is good... very good! I WAY prefer scraping my pegs to being jacked way up there on narrow pegs (both ways) as was the case before the advent of the low-engine-placement bikes in the early `90s.

    Ground clearance and lower center-of-mass have always been a design tradeoff, but as you go back in time, you see ground clearance more favored. Now low center of mass and left-right balance acuity are more favored.

    My 1989 Fantic is a good example of a transitional bike. Note in the pic the very low swing arm pivot placement (high engine and skid plate), yet the swing arm is longer, which is more modern.

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    I did lots of things on this bike over the years to lower ride height and footpeg height. I could not move the peg mounts (nowhere to go but up) so I made some really flat-profile pegs that are also much wider.

    In 1989 or 1990, I recall standing behind the Fantic owner Mr. Agrati at a world round and hearing him poo poo water cooling when asked. "It is not necessary!", he chuffed. I later visited the Fantic factory in Italy. My general impression was of a marque that was both struggling to stay alive and having difficulty departing from its traditions. Fantic did catch up in many details, but not in lowering the engine in the frame, which would have required lots of re tooling. GasGas led the way down and forward for engines and ended up dominating trials sales. Aprilia was first with water cooling in 1989, but the frame design was old world, motor positioned farther up and back, like the TY350s of the mid `80s. Pegs have come down and gotten wider (both ways). The changes also came with the advances in technique from the stop-and-hop era. Skid plates could be kept off obstacles - when it really mattered - with techniques like the splatter.

    And here we are today, riding these low-engine bikes while we just 'scrape by.'
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  18. wawarides

    wawarides where's Laura0107?

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    '07 Scorpa TY-S125F - 19"

    These two were in a booth in the back in the corner in the dark:

    '75-ish TY175 - appx 16"

    '74 or '75 TY250 - appx 17"
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