Wilbers-BMW: 0-1

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by tagesk, Jun 30, 2013.

  1. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    My Wilbers failed real bad today. No luggage, no warning: Suddenly my GS was a low-rider.
    Fortunately the speed was low.

    A friend went to my house, found the old shock on the attic, and brought it out in Chianti were I was stranded.
    I carry enough tools to replace it on the side of the road.

    I am happy to tell you we had a outstanding lunch prior to this failure, so it was still a good day.
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  2. Joeboxer82is

    Joeboxer82is Adventurer

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    Thank god u're ok. Lucky u were not riding fast. It's weird how a shock like Wilbers can break just like that. My Ohlins is 4hrs away from it's 1st servicing/rebuild as e seals are gone. Anyway i think u should show Wilbers e broken rear shock of theirs!
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  3. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Whoa, glad you're ok. Were you riding offroad at the time?

    Hopefully you were able to have a nice chianti while you waited :1drink
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  4. Swinefahrt

    Swinefahrt RooteR

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    Tagesk, I remember you having rear drive issues and now this!
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  5. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    This was the situation as we came to a halt. The steel rod broke, it seems, and the spring then slid off the stud.

    Here, the swing-arm is pointing down as the wheel has been removed. When we were on the bike, the spring was resting on the swing arm.

    We were riding on normal tarmac when it happened at abotu 50 km/h; no luggage!

    I think the damping went first; we passed over a bump and I really felt like in an American car (no offense!). We went up and down two or three times.
    Then the crack of something breaking, and the rear and fell at least 10 cm and the wheel banged up underneath the seat.

    I'll see if I can find info about Wilbers and ask if they want the remains.

    Now - a new shock is 850 euro. A 2008-9 BMW R1200GS Adventure is 10.000 euro. Look at those numbers and think about it.

    Speaking of FD-failure: I have had four so far.

    [TaSK]
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  6. kinkster

    kinkster Been here awhile

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    It will be interesting to see if Wilbers will come to the party!
    Glad you are OK though.
    What did you think of the wilbers before the failure?
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  7. fred flintstone

    fred flintstone Been here awhile

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    WoW! Does the lower mount (still attached to the swing arm in the pic) still swivel or is it frozen? Some Ohlins failures were attributed to that seizing up.

    Glad you are OK this could have ended badly.
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  8. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    4 fd failures? WOW... what make of gear lube are you using? Who is rebuilding them? And If you do not mind, what is the total weight that your bike is carrying?
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  9. capeklr

    capeklr Been here awhile

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    That was my first thought as well looking at the pics. If that mounting seizes then the shock shaft will break.
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  10. Okie Preacher

    Okie Preacher Long timer

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    The man has his priorities straight!
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  11. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    Not frozen.
    At least not when I started to work to get it off.

    [TaSK]
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  12. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    Wilbers say in an email today:
    Of course, a shock must not break. I would ask you to send us the defective shock. You have written that your shocks got a regular service.
    Please send us copies of the service work.

    When the shock arrived, we check it directly.
    We'll see.

    The shock has worked very well, and after rebuild it has been like new every time.

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  13. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    I've used some standard oil, don't know the brand.

    During our 13.000 km journey to Nordkapp (North Cape) we were 520 kg (about 1150 pounds).
    And we regularly do 1000 km days at 140 km/h for hour and hour.

    Just be to absolutely clear: I have never complained about having to replace four big bearings road-side.

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  14. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    Disgrazia!

    Glad you're okay TasK.

    Keep us informed.
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  15. Dan-M

    Dan-M Long timer

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    The important question is, what did you have for lunch?
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  16. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    Finally!

    We do not know how this could happen, but there is a town, a typical Tuscan hill-top town near to were we live, that we have not visited.
    When we noticed this grave omission we straddled the bike without delay; Sunday lunch await us!
    One hour later we entered Randicondoli.
    There are a few places to dine within the city walls, but we settled on Il Granaio on the east side.
    The trattoria is spacious, with ample space outside under a sail. We set outside (it is June in Tuscany, after all).

    For primo Capa had risotto con funghi porcini. She even went in the kitchen to convey in person her gratitude for this experience.
    I had tortellini con panna e prociutto. More average, but absolutely worth the effort.
    For secondo She had una insalata mista while I had bistecca di manzo con cinta di lardo. That was very good indeed.
    I really like lardo, and with beef it really comes out with all its power.

    With water, a quarto wine bianco, and coffe (not "coffee") we paid 50 euro.

    To sum up: A slight mechanical inconvenience aside, it was a perfect Sunday.

    Thank you for asking!

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  17. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    over loading does make a difference....to wit: http://micapeak.com/bmw/gs/gs_1150.htm

    High quality lubes make a big, BIG BIG improvement in reliability

    to wit: http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil Tests.pdf

    http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showt...king-results-Mobil-1-Redline-Royal-Purple-etc

    this is profound! http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/reviews/145534-royal-purple-oil-experience-2005-mustang-gt.html

    and this: http://lumenosity.blogspot.com/2010/06/royal-purple-motor-oil-review.html
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  18. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    put something on and stay in that position.
    The big bearing that TasK has replaced is the exact same big bearing that is used in the K1200LT, no?
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  19. Jazz62

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    Glad you're okay Tagesk, however the cow didn't fair as well :evil
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  20. tjt94

    tjt94 Been here awhile

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    You have just given a great reason to buy Yacugars. I got them instead of Wilbers because I was warned by Ted Porter that Wilbers have a smaller shaft.
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