Wildfire scooters, any opinion?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Rottweiler, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. Rottweiler

    Rottweiler I'm a Believer

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    ernest t bass Been here awhile

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    Someday Chinese bikes will be just as good as the well known Japanese brands.

    Sadly I don't think that day is here yet.

    Buyer Beware.
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  3. brockster

    brockster Despair & Repair Garage

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    POS.

    Some of the Taiwanese brands are fine. (PGO, etc.).
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  4. Rottweiler

    Rottweiler I'm a Believer

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    Thanks. Are you referring specifically to the Wildfire machines or just Chinese scooters in general?
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  5. mykrrrr

    mykrrrr advenposeur

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    I believe he's talking about Wildfire specifically.

    I'd go PGO, Kymco then TGB or Sym. The latter not being as good as the former according to my VERY knowledgeable scooter friend BGK. :freaky

    Check out Genuine scooters if you're looking for something that's well built and a bit cheaper. www.genuinescooters.com
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  6. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    I'm bumpin' this thread .... I figure more inmates have experience with these... let me know what you think :ear

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  7. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    I'd pay $31.00 for the one on Ebay.
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  8. approachbears

    approachbears 250cc is 50cc too many

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    I sat on one of the Wildfire Mopeds pictured above, but didn't get to fire it up. I guess this is the next blockiest thing if Kinetic mopeds aren't available in your area. It makes a Tomos look sleek by comparison. It seemed strangely ungainly and oddly bulky with that underbone and basket storage. But it was all metal, so you'll at least get some scrap money if it blows up. There's one Wildfire Moped parked at a bicycle rack in my town. I keep my eye out to see it on the road, but haven't yet caught it running.

    I've never actually seen one of the Wildfire Scooters in person. The pictures make them look pretty much like every other Chinese scooter out there.

    Do note that, like most all the Chinese mopeds and scooters I've encountered, they warranty only the engine and transmission parts, not the labor. This is different from Japanese scooters that are warrantied for the whole vehicle and include labor.
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  9. tortoise2

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    Base "moped" (usually under 50cc) selection criteria on YOUR state statutes . . some have a no-shift stipulation . . some require pedals.
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  10. approachbears

    approachbears 250cc is 50cc too many

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    Yes, I understand that some states still require mopeds to have pedals. I have absolutely no desire to get into a definitional debate about mopeds in this thread.

    I was simply using the terms "moped" and "scooter" as such because Wildfire clearly takes styling cues from a Kinetic brand moped and its scooters are clearly run of the mill China-scoots.

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  11. Rottweiler

    Rottweiler I'm a Believer

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    Wildfire also makes a model in the configuration of the Honda Helix. That's the one I've seen most often.
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  12. pennintj

    pennintj Down & Dirty Mechanic

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    As someone who actually works on Chinese scooters, and not just some guy who "thinks" all Chinese bikes are junk....I wouldn't spend a whole bunch of money on a Wildfire.

    (Unlike most internet experts, I've actually worked on scooters & motorcycles for over 11 years)

    There's a write-up on the Moped Army forum about a guy who actually bought one, and put about 3-4,000 miles on it. Then everyone started bitching because it "wasn't a moped" and shouldn't be on the forum.

    It's a Linhai built Kinetic, with a Linhai "Honda" CT engine strapped onto it.

    Personally, if you search "Linhai" engine on any of the Pit Bike websites, you'll find they're the choice of the base/cheap pit bike racers, until they get into the GPX/YX/Pirhana/Pitster/spendy engines. And most of those are Linhai based.

    Watch the exhaust flange where it hits the cylinder head. Those studs break off in the head...then you're screwed.

    Buy one for $50~$100 off eBay, change the oil, set the valves, carry a spare coil & cdi with you, and have fun is my advice. And keep an eye on the chain.

    Just don't bury yourself in it. And if you can't tinker/work on it, definitely avoid it.

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  13. techguy

    techguy Scooter Trash

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    ... including shipping? DEAL! :rofl
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  14. JEDI 2.0

    JEDI 2.0 Not From Star Wars

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    That thing's ugly as f*** anyway. Save your money on that junk & either get an old CT 90 to fix up, or a new Symba.
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  15. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    pennintj tHANKS for the real world level headed review

    Jedi, I hear ya on that I have been searching for a CT for a while. Right now i am doing an engine swap on my spacy so I kinda gotta wait and see how broke I am gonna be after that. I need a cheap, running CT:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl don't we all!!

    I just saw that ebay listing for 31 bucks and was thinkin that was cheap enough to buy and drive it off the roof a few times into the pool:huh
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  16. tortoise2

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    Do a "completed sales only" eBay search (must be logged in) of identical listings to see which bid amounts have not met the "reserve price".

    If the typical state 30 mph moped speed limitation is acceptable . . from a strictly cost perspective for the mechanically inclined, it is hard to beat the value of a NON-RUNNING 50cc 4-stroke (139QMB) CVT-drive scooter off Craigslist. Often all that is required is a valve adjustment and carb cleaning. Ignition coils, CDI modules, and stators are relatively cheap from eBay vendors. Some states do not even require these 50cc scooters to be insured or registered.
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  17. scottro

    scottro Been here awhile

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    I've got a Wildfire 110cc pitbike I bought used for $190, and I like it. The motor has great power and runs smooth. The rest of the bike is pretty rough and cheap. The frame, footpegs, suspension and forks are farm implement tough and cheap. The plastics are toy-like and easily broken -- but cheap to replace. The throttle and levers are similarly toylike, but no big deal to replace w/ better stuff. As someone else mentioned, the stator and CDI are very cheap and easily replaced if they fail. Having spares is cheap insurance.

    It's a very easy and fun bike to work on and parts and upgrades are very cheap.

    That being said, if I were getting something to ride on the street for $500-600ish, I'd hit craigslist and find a decent used 80's-era Japanese motorcycle.

    But if you prefer scooters and mopeds, and don't mind tinkering w/ the bike, and $500-$600 isn't going to kill you, then the Wildfire will probably be fun to ride, mod, and tinker with.
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  18. Ratski

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    I used to be the lead set up and tech for a Wildfire dealer. All in all they are okay the motors are pretty bulletproof but the electrics are a bit wonky, mostly just bad connections in the harnesses. (Cheap Connectors) We had a shop scoot we used for running parts and stuff and we would run that thing WFO from the second we started it till we got where we wer going and never had any motor problems. Someone mentioned the Helix look alike, I would avoid that one, its as big and heavy and comfy as a Helix but with a 150 motar that will only pull about 50 mph. On the other hand the shop scoot, a 50 we could run 42 on flat ground. If you want more info or have a speciic question, PM me.
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  19. Bar None

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    Ratski,
    The CFMOTO Fashion Helix clone has a 244cc engine. A buddy I ride with has one and it can move right along.
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  20. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    That was quite a find, congrats!
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