Will The Bonnie Work For Me?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by skysailor, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. SomethingClever

    SomethingClever sick life

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    What kind of return does that mod deliver in terms of performance? Also, do you send in your stock igniter and they mod it, or do they just send you a whole new unit?

    Would be pretty tempting if they just send you a new one. I don't really want to be without the bike for a couple weeks waiting on postage... I commute on the thing.
  2. mjs3800

    mjs3800 Adventurer

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    Really dont know the HP numbers but there are gains. As you can tell these Bonnies can hit the 7400 rev limit pretty fast and strangle them as they are coming on the cam. The rev limit is raised to 8500 with a igniten advance at 3500. There is a core exchange... you send yours and they send you one back. Here is the USA dist. Talk to Carlos.


    http://www.triumphperformanceusa.com/
  3. B02S4

    B02S4 Aye

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    Let's see the dyno sheet, correction factor, & smoothing factor.

    :ear


    You do have it, right?
  4. conchscooter

    conchscooter Long timer

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    If you read Jupiter's Travels you will find Simon's Daytona was constantly breaking down and he was fixing it, which worked for him. Personally with 60,000 trouble free miles on my POS 2007 Bonneville I cannot imagine taking off with spare pistons in my luggage. And oh yes I have a couple of Iron Butts under my belt on my POS modern Bonneville with the standard seat. The beauty of these machines is that whatever you dislike you can change, exhausts, seats, handlebars, and improve performance if that matters to you. A modern Bonneville is a blank slate to do with as you will.

    Old Triumphs were superbikes, until Honda CB750s hit the scene then Triumphs died an agonizing, under funded death. When clean reliable boring Japanese bikes appeared the wild oily vibrators disappeared. They were reborn because the Triumph name has a glorious history and John Bloor had the billions to bring them back right. I am glad I own one.

    In an effort to avoid a POS old Bonneville I bought a Benelli Tornado 650 in 1970 something ( I lived in Italy). It didn't leak but when it wasn't tearing my eyeballs out from rip snorting acceleration the electrics were failing. Vibration is an issue for much more than rider comfort as any old timer will tell you. Engine vibration breaks wiring, kills light bulbs, loosens all manner of fasteners, frequently most unexpectedly, numbs fingers and makes long distance riding hell. I remember, I was there. Modern bikes are lovely.
  5. Calamity Jesus

    Calamity Jesus n0ob

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    I don't understand all of the hate from the classic Triumph owners. Nor do I understand how people can claim the new bikes don't have character. I feel like my bike has loads of character compared to most modern bikes. But then, the only Bonneville I've ridden is my own. True, from the showroom it's a bit of a blank canvas, but that's why it's so much fun to own.

    [​IMG]

    I had no problems doing the ton like that. Actually, I went up a tooth up front after that trip because it was screaming at 70mph despite making plenty of torque. One of my three complaints about the bike from the factory is that it really could use a 6th gear with the 865cc engine. The other two are the pathetically thin mag wheel bike's seat and the truck-like rear shocks. I replaced the shocks (with Thruxton-length Ikons) before I took my next big trip on the bike (a 1200mi weekend) and things were dramatically better. I replaced the awesome stock Metzelers with some numb sport-touring tires and have been regretting that decision ever since. The truth is, as much as I enjoyed the idea of touring on the Bonnie, I couldn't bring myself to install a windshield. I bought a used Tiger 1050 for touring and have begun slowly transforming the Bonneville into a street fighter.

    First up: custom baffled exhaust:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkYBhAQJRDw

    Yet to come: a 17T front sprocket, some real sticky tires, rear fender elliminator, front fork emulators, some taller & wider bars and an airbox removal :evil


    The Bonneville, T100 & Thruxton all have the same 865cc, 180* crank engine. The Speedmaster, America and Scrambler all have 270* cranks.

    As for your "hitting" the crank at as close to 90* comment.. well, you seem confused about what '270* crank' means... or I'm completely missing your intended meaning.
  6. doxiedog

    doxiedog Been here awhile

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    The Bonneville, T100 & Thruxton all have 360° engines!
    Only the scrambler has a 270°,none are 180°.
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  7. sebastianp

    sebastianp Been here awhile

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    I testrode a Bonneville on the weekend and found it to be a remarkably pleasant machine. More than enough power for every day living, but I found it a bit too gentle for me. Comfortable and worked really well.

    I recorded my testride here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67-eQkTV8m0
  8. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Likely Lost.

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    I know what it means I was simply wrong, its how far the crank moves between ignition strokes.
  9. LWRider

    LWRider Been here awhile

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    Did they change this over the years? I am looking in my "Owner's Handbook" at the specification pages for my 2011 Bonnie T100 and it says the Bonneville, Bonneville SE, and the Thuxton all have 360 degree firing angles; while the Bonneville T100 and Bonneville Scrambler have 270 degree firing angles.

    Cheers,

    Mike
  10. No False Enthusiasm

    No False Enthusiasm a quiet adventurer

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    From Triumph Website: http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/motorcycles/range/classics/bonneville/2011/bonneville-t100/2995

    T-100:

    NFE
  11. LWRider

    LWRider Been here awhile

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    That's a pretty big flub up in the Owner's Handbook.
  12. Bikebits

    Bikebits Scramblin' man

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    That is a massive, inexcusable mistake.

    The T100, Bonnevilles and Thruxton have the 360 degree engine; the Scrambler, America and Speedmaster have the 270 degree crank.
  13. sargev55

    sargev55 Been here awhile

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    go easy, its a british manual :D

    at least the electrics work
  14. teachnsurf

    teachnsurf Bonnie Adventurer

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    I got nothing to say. I just saw an opportunity to post a pic of my ride.

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    '09 Bonnie Black EFI
  15. DWR302

    DWR302 Justan Nudderboomer

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    Teach, I like the well worn Bonnie. I have started reading your 09 trip report. Very interesting. Do I recall you commenting on a trip I took last year and posted in the Triumph forum? Anyway, cheers! Heading out on a little trip to the Ozark Rat Raid myself in the morning.
  16. Tecpatl4

    Tecpatl4 Adventurer

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    It works for me too. Last year did a 4500 mile trip in 10 days. Only problem I had was almost getting stuck in deep sand in New Mexico.

    And it had no problem keeping up with traffic on the interstate. Although with the light weight it gets a bit dicey passing those big RV's with the flat noses at 100mph.
  17. KungPaoDog

    KungPaoDog Been here awhile

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    So now that we figured out which model has which crank, what is the difference between the two engines? Is there a difference in traction on the dirt for the Scrambler? Is it just about sound? Does one vibrate more than the other? Are the torque curves super different? Why did the bother?:ear
  18. fyr

    fyr iRoast Coffee

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    Well
    Im on to my second.. 07 T100
    Was on the fence on what to or not to buy. My mind always came back to the Bonnie.
    It'll be a do it all bike for now.. pics when I have em
  19. acap650

    acap650 acap650

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    Since singles are the best for traction, a twin with two closely spaced power pulses hooks up better than one with evenly spaced pulses. Examples are flat track and gp bikes with "big bang" timing.

    In the Scrambler the 270 deg crank feels and sounds more like a 90 deg v-twin. I doubt there is much real world advantage, I think it is just marketing.
  20. slingstone

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    According to the Speedmakers episode on Triumph and their then-new Thunderbird (1600 cc, but also 270 dregree crank), the 270 engine was to give more chuckle sounds to the engine. They're trying to approximate the acousitcs of a v-twin (with an ear on Milwaukee).

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/238956/speedmakers-triumph-motorcycles