Will they stop me? Who has done it? Leaving bike in country...

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  1. thewildcallsjon

    thewildcallsjon Been here awhile

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    Its not been an issue for many European countries so far, I often leave a motorbike at an airport and fly back and forward from London. However I will be entering Morocco shortly with a bike and need to know whether I can leave my bike there and fly out, without being noticed. I didn't give it any thought until now, since I have chained a bike up at numerous airports all over Europe and flown away.

    I understand with the Morocco ferry border crossing, you apparently cant leave the country again by ferry without your bike, if you bring a bike in you have to bring it out? is that the case which sounds similar to something I read about Turkey, but is it the case with flights?

    Has anyone left their bike in Morocco, flown out, flown back, rode, repeated, without any issue, or will the airport serious faced security guards who stare at your passport for 1 second, and who don't bother to check if you have properly filled in the paper 'death announcement' form that you have to fill out, stop me from flying out ? will my temporarily imported bike be digitally stamped on my E passport ? or will no one know, no one care and I can fly anywhere be the case? Its been fantastic doing this over Europe, as its only 3 hours or so for me to almost anywhere in Europe, and my bike is just chained up waiting for me to roll around a new country, but it would be a pain if Moroccan bureaucracy meant I would now be 'noticed' and not allowed... Seeing as I was intending to leave it there over about 10 weeks, flying back and forward.

    This leads me to a few more questions, do I have to pay or buy a temporary import tax/visa for Morocco? What is the maximum length of stay you can legally keep a bike in Morocco on temporary import? can it be extended? what is the penalty for bike overstaying on trying to exit via ferry?

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    Thanks Nick, im trying to go there but get the message: ''Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here''

    maybe I shouldn't be browsing here while at work. Il see if it works at home!
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  4. Bell driver

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    You can only store the bike with customs, or it has to move out.
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    has anyone actually tried it? has anyone tried to fly out with their bike still in the country?
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    In Turkey they put a stamp for your vehicle in your passport. It's probably something similar in Morocco.
    As said above - you'll need to leave it in a customs pound, there might be one at the airport.
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    It all has to do with commerce and taxes......they are going to want to get taxes for anything sold in country from someone outside the country. You say you are leaving it but did you really sell it?:dirtdog
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    well the case is actually just to commute to work for a few days, before flying back to my 'home' which is the road, I.e. wherever I leave the bike but I understand. I think im going to try it anyway, if it fails, then work will have to wait while I ride back out the country.
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    You could have a look at the Chris Scott book about Morocco. He covers vehicle import/export.

    When I went to India in 1970, from Turkey onwards it was necessary to have the vehicle details labouriously transcribed into your passport, in Arabic script. A double page spread at each frontier. Then checked and double checked as you left. It was vital all details were totally correct and matched.
    The further east you went the longer it took. Until I got to India itself, then it was very pleasant and processed quickly, until they and I found out about my lack of Carnet.
    Fortunately, once back in Lahore, I met a Man from the Ministry quite by chance in Lawence Gardens who could arrange for me to leave everything at the border post at Gundah Singh Wala.
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    From Mick and Tan's blog. You know them, right ?

    "The obvious choice given the time crunch was to fly from Morocco to Ireland. However we knew the Moroccan government was dead serious about not allowing you to leave the country without the temporarily imported vehicle which gets tied to you passport through a tourist number issued on arrival. Plenty of people get stung by this rule, either having to surrender the vehicle to the state or pay the high permanent import taxes on the vehicle before youre allowed to take it out of the coutry..

    ...But still we weren’t giving up. We figured there must be a way around this non-leaving the country without your vehicle rule. We did some online research then went to the airport to talk with customs.

    Customs confirmed that if we could physically get the bikes to the airport and left our keys and registration papers with them we could indeed leave the country with no ill consequence. So then and there we jumped online and found that Ryanair had done us a solid and just that day released some cheap Dublin Marrakesh flights. Winner winner chicken dinner!..."
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  11. chasbmw

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    I'm with Chris Scott in Morocco at the moment and in discussions with the group it was confirmed that you can leave your bike at the airport with Customs, don't know how it is arranged and what the storage costs are, but don't try to leave the country without going through this process. Morocco charges a 40% import duty on vehicles, so they are hot on this issue


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    Thank you for all the info. Next question is: My current insurance is with Bennetts, the small print shows temporary number of days cover in the EU, and variety of random countries that are non eu, but does not mention Morocco. Is Morocco officially in the EU? im emailing Bennetts to ask them what the deal is, but so im prepared, how much is insurance for a motorbike if you buy it at the port, say on arrival in Tangier?
    Thats, if i cant get it covered through a UK company, would be good to know an idea of how much it will cost ?
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    NoMorocco is not in the EU, I don't know how much insurance is at the Border, but I would guess that the coverage will be restricted to 3rd party coverage only, so don't Bin the bike or let it get stolen (unlikely in Morocco)


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  15. tea

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    I was there in April, it was 60 Euros for 10 days and I think about 90 for 30 days.

    Not sure if it covers riding a camel though Jon :)))
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    Thank you very much. I read of one bloke who didnt bother getting insurance for his whole trip and nobody noticed... I think he just laminated his regular insurance which does not cover Morocco and when asked presented that, and got away with it... Having said that, if you accidentally hit someone without insurance, you dont want to be singing johnny cash in a Moroccan prison.

    Do you all remember the first time you went to Morocco?
    I certainly am looking forward to Morocco! I want to traverse the desert pistes and desolate waste grounds, i am looking forward to encountering wandering goats, and hopefully finding me a desert fox. Top of my list I intend to ride to the Merzouga Desert, where I will surf the sand dunes, sleep at the 'Sandor million star hotel' on the crest of a dune with nothing but my sleeping bag and a compass to find my way back to my bike. I can already picture the incredible sky at night is a full awe inspiring panoramic eye shot vista, where no artificial light exists. I will go and swim again at the Ouzoud falls, and this time fully explore the Atlas mountains. I intend to ride into Western Sahara also. If anyone has any recommendations on the most stunning amazing landscapes in Morocco, please send them. Do not send pictures! I dont want to see it until i get there for myself. Last time i was there I ended up in a small place called Tourirt, everything was closed, it was a dump, as I walked down the street, everyone looked at me with a scrunched up angry or disgusted face, as though they have never seen an English man with blonde hair. Apart from the taxi drivers, they were quite decent native fellows. I have had numerous strange experiences in Morocco, but this will be the first time with ultimate freedom having a bike there.

    Meantime, il entertain myself with more Ed March C90 videos..
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    If you haven't been to Ouzuod falls for some time, I would hang onto your memories and not go back.


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    What makes you say that chasbmw?

    I was there at Ouzoud falls in June 2016. It was awesome. Monkeys jump on your head. Crazy kids jumping 150 foot from the side of the fall into unclear water, not knowing whether it was deep enough.. In the village locals try to convince you, that your stupid and would not possibly ever be able to find your own way to the falls, so they try to get you to pay some Dirham for a 'tour' winding through the forest by some donkeys. The locals made oil drums into boats and put chairs and artificial colourful flowers on them to make them appealing to tourists and a native dude paddles you out until your nearly underneath the falls. Theres a nice little restaurant on the side of the cliff overlooking the fall.
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    My insurance papers were never checked but I think I encountered at least 1 police checkpoint everyday so I wouldn't chance it.

    My only advice would be to try and stay off the N roads, they can be pretty dull, especially the further south you go. If I was to go again I'd pay the tolls and go from Tangier Med to south of Marrakesh on the first day.
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    wait, tolls too? are there toll roads? damn I hate them, at least, that they are so expensive. Got caught out on the AP7 in eastern Spain, and all the way up Italy. Why cant they just spend all that hard work and effort and money building the road and let you ride them for free?
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