Windscreen Disgust ...... again

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by scottr, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. CMWoody

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    Looks like you velcroed it there CP. I put a little hole in my mirror stalk and tapped it for the M4 screw. Same place as yours though.:D
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  2. andystephenson

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  3. cpmodem

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    Used something a little stronger than Velcro. RTV. Been on there for 2 years and lots of offroad, mud, rain, sleet, etc., (you get the idea). Someday, I'll make it "permenant." :poser

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  4. PeeBee

    PeeBee Giant leap for me!

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    I had one of the first 2003 950S's. The skyscraper. I had my first 600 miles service scheduled at Sommer, some 120 miles away. The chief mech told me to rev it to red in 5th or 6th on the way over (Germany has no speed limits) to seat the valves properly before adjusting. O, and do that for 35 miles, from the border to their shop.

    Right. I had cast earplugs and a Schuberth lid on, that I'd bought because of its claim to be a silent helmet. At 130 mph it felt like blood was dripping from my ears. Must have been way over 120 dB and it really hurt. I managed to keep it up for some 10 miles, and I did not hear a whole lot the rest of that day. It felt strange to be on a bike that's faster than bearable to the driver.

    My year on the 950 has cost me a dear portion of my hearing. The audiologist (is that proper English?) that tested my ears was a biker himself. He told me he'd only had bikes with no or low fairings, that leave your head in a clean airstream. This because he had never driven a bike with a high fairing that generated an entirely clean airstream.

    My 0.02 (and my 2 ears)
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  5. cpmodem

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    That's a shame PeeBee. I haven't had much time behind the OEM screen. I've been using the "Original" mod One 13" Cee Bailey (I was a prototype tester. Long story) for 2+ years and over 30k miles. I always wear earplugs (el cheepo store boughts), and I have worked around jet engines and sirens for the past 33 years. I just had an extensive hearing evaluation related to my job. They pronounced me good to go. No hearing loss at all. I was surprised with all of the years of loud noise I've been subjected to. I guess some of us are just less suceptable to noise than others. I hope the best for you.

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  6. Denalidirt

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  7. PeeBee

    PeeBee Giant leap for me!

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    Thanks cpmodem. I'm not deaf, but I suffer from the first phenomena of hearing loss, like: trouble having a conversation in a loud room. That's really difficult for me.
    My wife and kids also get really tired of me asking 'what was that you said?'. They have to speak in my direction, things like that. I'm a sound engineer by education, and I'm glad I found a job in the computer business with these ears!

    Getting scared, folks? You should be! Hearing ability will only go downhill, ever.
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  8. CMWoody

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    Older Schuberths were loud as heck, among the loudest you could buy. The newer ones conversely, C2 & S1 are very quiet. I'm using a C2 with molded plugs and its very, very quiet. I'm pretty happy with my stock shield but it should be noted that I'm pretty tall and my head is up over the dirty air. Sorry about the hearing loss, I've suffered a bit through the years too. Sucks!
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  9. PeeBee

    PeeBee Giant leap for me!

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    My above story was with a C1, which was soon after swapped for a C2. The C2 is indeed a lot better, but still noisier than a non-folding helmet.
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  10. Killer Whale KTM

    Killer Whale KTM Life is the adventure!

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    Guy's,
    I would be willing to bet a beer that 90% of your noise problems is from the helmet !
    This is the only reason I have not purchased one.Shoie makes a helmet similar to the HD called the Hornet. I'm not sure if you can get it in the U.S. now and it is NOT Snell or DOT certified.I read a very complete article written by British ( I think) journalists ,that seemed very professional and complete.They said the Shoie was much , much more quiet than the Arai.Which should tell you something regarding the noise level of the Arai
    I wear a Shoie RF1000 and wore a RF900 for 2 or 3 years.The 1000 is slightly more Quiet but flows a lot more air.When cool, I use the chin air dam.
    I have a combination that is near perfect for me.I only bring all this up again because I see this thread keeps going with some losing hearing which to me is unacceptable. My complete set up for those who want to try is as follows:
    1) I'm just over 6ft tall
    2)I always wear cheap foam ear plugs (wet them a little and they work great)
    3)I have a cee Baileys 15 inch shield.
    4)I have heated and bent in or down the "flap" on the air duct.
    5)I installed a simple sheet of plastic on the inside of the windshield to deflect the air up and over my head.(picture earlier in this thread bottom of page 2)
    6)I made a simple mud guard between the forks under the headlight etc.(someone sells these).
    7)I switched to Duke mirrors.

    I think the single most important mod is #5). I get very few bugs on my face shield, which should tell you something ! There is a huge difference when I lean out past my windshield on a hard turn.When I stand up slightly (1 or 2 inch's) I can feel the wind try to take my head off. When I sit normally it is VERY quiet.I have tried many other combinations but this is the best !

    I hope this helps Y'all !!
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  11. RED CAT

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    Me too on the hearing loss thing but that I can handle, Its the ringing in my ears 24/7 that is really annoying. Wear hearing protection always but still find the wind roar from the 950 screen hard to take for any length of time.
    Fine if I stay under 60mph but who can do that on this brusier.
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  12. scottr

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    Take it off. Take it all off. Ride nakid. :amazon
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  13. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

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    OK, as Scottr said, "take it off". Wow, silence is golden. What does a stock 950 wind screen cost? I definitly want to to cut down my stocker. A little worried about long trips though. Short is quiet but push back is annoying at speed. Might be worth it though. Did it on my Tiger awhile back with poor results but realize now that I didn't cut it down enough. Any ideas on how much to take off for a 6 foot guy for optimum performance, that is, just enough air flow to keep just my head in the breeze? Guess I'll experiment today. Thanks for the tip.
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  14. codys

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    THe windscreens are cheap for windscreens. I paid 45 dollars shipped from www.elitektm.com . As far as how much to chop, I dunno. Take a inch off at a time till it works for you. I'm sure someone will chime in.
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  15. Karl-KTM

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    Had prolem with turbulence and the std windscreen, I'm 6'1"...
    I cut away about 4" off and found this to be okay to me.
    I use Arai or AXO cross helmet depending of the season. View attachment 109685
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  16. RED CAT

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    Cut off 4 inches this morning and took a spin. Quieter but not as good as no screen. Little more wind about the shoulders. Too cool today for a good ride. Will try that for awhile and maybe try another 2 inches. My dealer quoted me $85. for a new screen. Also have the Touratech 3 inch extender to play with.
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  17. codys

    codys Lost in the Vizcaino

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    Any more pics from side or front and farther away. Looks pretty clean what you did.

    Here's the elite link but what's30- 40 bucks between dealers?:eek1
    http://216.165.193.20/elitektm/ , select 03, fairing pieces and it's number one on the list.
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  18. sakurama

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    Yes, technically true but but we're also dealing with one one of the most aerodynamically retarded forms of transportation there is. The 950 maybe more so than most.

    Check out the Buell below. They have a ton of money in their wind tunnel testing and that duct is for high pressure intake - far more than just reducing the pressure behind the screen. You're not looking to do anything but reduce the pressure differential which will reduce the buffeting. While endless speculation is fun (and what the internet is built on after porn of course) I've done this and it works - 24,000 miles so far with an XD.

    Gregor

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  19. fnckr

    fnckr Do you wanna play too?

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    Well, since I'm having no luck finding anything on the web that can be custom molded without too much technical knowledge I'm going to go with what's been proven on this board by you and others. I'll try it for a couple of weeks. Then maybe I'll try adding some holes on the side with a bit of flat plastic bonded behind. We'll see. Anything will be better I'm sure.
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  20. Rock_93

    Rock_93 Been here awhile

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    This is a little off topic but has anyone landed on the wind screen. I did now I'm thinking of cutting down my stock wind screen It might be easier on the ribs.