Wisconsin OHM/DS Motorcyclists - Trail and Legislative Issues

Discussion in 'Central – From Da Nort Woods to the Plane States' started by Cannonshot, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. InRoostWeTrust

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    Email sent!
    Hopefully they accept comments from Minnesota residents...

    Keep up the great work Bryan!

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    I was at the Congress also. First time there as a volunteer delegate. Could be some exciting happenings!


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  3. InRoostWeTrust

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    Looks like my email to Laurie Ross from a non-resident (MN) was accepted and shared the the WI-DNR board.
    The reply email also noted the 10/25/17 board meeting will be live webcasted at http://dnr.wi.gov/about/nrb/agenda.html

    Click webcasts in the Related Links column, then click this months meeting.

    Roost!

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  4. Cannonshot

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    As you recall, the DNR has been working on a Recreational Opportunities Analysis. Many key recreation representatives, including myself, have been working with them on this project. Previously, the DNR offered meetings and the opportunity for public comment in the Northwoods Region, the Great Northwest Region, and the Upper Lake Michigan Coastal Region. Thank you to all that submitted remarks in support of OHM riding during the comment period for those areas. Soon, the DNR will hold meetings and take public input in three additional regions. These are: Lake Winnebago Waters Region (Menominee, Shawano, Waupaca, Outagamie, Waushara, Marquette, Green Lake, Winnebago, Calumet, and Fond du Lac Counties), Mississippi River Corridor (St. Croix, Dunn, Peirce, Pepin, Buffalo, Trempeleau, LaCrosse, Vernon, Crawford, Grant), and Western Sands (Chippewa, Eau Claire, Clark, Jackson, Monroe, Wood, Portage, Marathon, Juneau, and Adams). Now is the time to submit your remarks concerning recreational opportunities in these three regions. I am providing a link to the DNR ROA page below. While on that page you will find links to online input forms for these three regions. You will also find listings for open house meetings: Mon Oct 23 - Eau Claire, Tuesday Oct 24 - Stevens Point, Wednesday Oct 25 - Lacrosse, Wednesday Nov 1 - Appleton. The open house meetings are great for face to face discussions, but what is really important is that our needs and preferences get properly recorded via the on-line forms. Please get the word out for off-highway motorcyclists to comment about their desire to have more OHM riding opportunities in these regions. The link to the DNR ROA page is below. Look for the three on-line input forms. The deadline for these three regions is Nov 17th. It is important for us to be visible and establish a record of our needs. As before, I will be submitting detailed written input for both of these regions.

    http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Lands/RecAnalysis/
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  5. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    There are draft chapters prepared for the Great Northwest and the Upper Lake Michigan Coastal areas posted to the ROA page. Thank you to the people that provided input during the call for comments for each area. It makes a big difference. I have read both drafts and our needs are represented in each. I will be submitting detailed comments about the drafts from the OHM perspective. Some others may want to do so as well. The draft pages and the email contact address are listed on the ROA page. http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Lands/RecAnalysis/ There will also be two hearings to take in-person input. One in DePere on Tuesday, October 17th. The other will be in Rice Lake on Wednesday, October 18th. It is not necessary to attend in-person. It is helpful to submit comments related to the draft chapters in support of OHM (i.e. OHM access to the Flambeau State Forest).
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  6. Cannonshot

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    We had a meeting of the Off-Highway Motorcycle Council this evening. We had some issues to work out with the DNR about getting the administrative code that supports the OHM statute completed. Couldn't resolve everything we needed to so we'll have to do a little more work and come back at it. I think the council is perceived as being made up of some good quality representatives based on some remarks that were made. That is a good way to be regarded by the people we must do business with.
  7. Cannonshot

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    Today I participated as part of a work group involving ATV/UTV trail standards. This is going to be a year long process. It will be relevant to how we address motorcycle trail standards. Lots of issues. The NOHVCC Great Trails book was pretty popular. http://gt.nohvcc.org/
  8. Cannonshot

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    On Tuesday, 24 Oct 2017, from 0600-0700, WPR will be doing a one hour show about motorized trails in the Northern Highland - American Legion State Forest. Although the show focuses on ATV access, we are in the mix with our being included in the plan for 36 miles of OHM trails as well as our general dual sport access. The first half hour will likely be someone speaking against motorized recreation. The second half hour will be someone speaking in favor and hopefully clearing up any bad information that might have been put forth. It would be good if some pro-motor folks could call in to support motorized recreation in general and in the forest. If you do call, be calm and professional and don't resort to taking shots or antagonizing some other group. A positive message that communicates our love for our recreational interest is what is best. Highlighting family use and the maturity of our responsible riders is helpful as well. With regard to exhaust sounds, our off-highway vehicles have sound limits. We are no different than any other motor vehicle in the forest.

    The call in number should be 800.642.1234.

    A little information about the show is in the link.

    If you missed the radio show live, you can listen here in the WPR audio archives.
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  9. Cannonshot

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    As part of a workgroup from another motorized council I serve with, had a meeting in Wausau today to work on some bridge and trail issues of mutual interest with the snowmobile reps. As always, it is important for our motorized family to work together to try to work out the best possibilities for all involved.
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    Another step forward for off-highway motorcyclists. The Master Plan for the Northern Highland - American Legion State Forest was just approved by the Natural Resources Board. The plan not only acknowledges OHM use in the forest, but also provides for up to two future motorcycle trails with a total of 36 miles of single track. The DNR is also interested in joining in on the GPS guided rides I have produced for the forest to have a system to make it easier for riders to navigate the primitive roads there on backcountry dual sport tours. Keep in mind that not so many years ago motorized recreation was voted down in a referendum in this area. I want to thank the folks that responded to the Recreational Opportunities Analysis survey for this area that I previously spoke of. Your comments in these calls to action do make a difference. The strong support for off-highway motorcycling provided the leverage needed to work this issue with the DNR to get a more favorable outcome for us. After all the work with the DNR to get us properly represented in the plan, today I made a presentation to the Natural Resources Board on behalf of off-highway motorcycling just ahead of their decision to modify, approve, or reject the plan. What a pleasant outcome. Also, congratulations to some other members of our motorized family (ATV/UTV) for the significant gains they made with provisions in the plan for their interests. Any ATV routes or trails in the forest will be open to OHM as well. A good day that is a product of a lot of work over a long period of time. Sometimes I get a little worn down working on all this stuff. A day like today puts some more gas in the tank to continue working at trying to increase opportunities for us. [​IMG]
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  11. Bultaco206

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    Congrats, Bryan. And thank you for that endless amount of work so we can have even more opportunities.
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  12. Lake_Bueller

    Lake_Bueller Own ALL the Corners

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    Congrats Cannonshot and all the others instrumental in getting this done. I was just reading about the approval on the local news site in Green Bay. I was coming here to post about it but was a few minutes late. I'm looking forward to many more areas opening in future. Until then, I will make sure to keep my Wisconsin OHV tag up to date and explore more of the beautiful land that WI has to offer.

    Now if we could only get that damn off-road park open so I can actually use my Land Rovers.....
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  13. NC Rick

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    Bryan, thank you for what you do! Congratulations. That’s simply amazing.
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    I can't like this enough. Great news! If you had asked me back around 2000 if something like this outcome could happen there, I think I'd have said you were crazy. Sometimes things change for the better, thanks to the hard work and advocacy of certain individuals and general positive support from our community.
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  15. Cannonshot

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    I just took some time to let some of the DNR folks I've worked with over the years know how much I appreciate them doing their jobs fairly and professionally. That means a lot to all of us.

    I also want to highlight the cooperation and mutual support with our friends in the ATV/UTV community. The "motorized family" concept is very important. We need to stick together to build successes like this and overcome those that unreasonably oppose us.

    And even though we gained some opportunities in the NHAL, I want to remind everyone that we have an active single track trail project in Vilas County. We need to provide workers and other support to get this trail completed. The local club is getting some things started now. Let's not lose sight of work that needs to be done there. But looking ahead at the possibilities, we could have three single track trails in that region, along with extensive high quality dual sport riding, which will make it an exceptionally attractive destination for off-highway motorcyclists.
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    Thank you for all the hours and efforts to make this possible. Truly a gift to us riders.
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  18. Lake_Bueller

    Lake_Bueller Own ALL the Corners

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    Is there a link/contact/etc on how we can help? I'm about 3 hours away but might be able to break free for a weekend over the winter if they're still working on the trails.
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    Yes. There will be some group work days starting in the spring. Right now the local club is doing some work that will allow everyone to make the best use of the work days so no one's time gets wasted. Watch here and on the WOHMA Facebook page for notifications.
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  20. Cannonshot

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    Here is an article from this month's NOHVCC newsletter. The Great Trails book is a top notch resource for trail construction, design, and maintenance issues. It is much more current that some other references out there. It is full of photos that illustrate the concepts being discussed. Anyone that deals with trail issues should have this reference. I'm part of a work group with the DNR that uses this book as one of the references related to the project we involved with.

    Great Trails’ Guidebook Is Changing Attitudes, Moving Trail Projects Forward By Dave Halsey, NOHVCC Contributor

    It’s been 2 years since the National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council (NOHVCC) released its new guidebook titled ‘Great Trails: Providing Quality OHV Trails and Experiences’. Today, it is the ultimate resource for OHV organizations, as well as OHV program managers and land managers at state and federal agencies. It is helping folks at all levels of motorized recreation to move the NOHVCC mission forward. In addition to verbal feedback on the 350-page resource, we occasionally receive email notes. This one from Bryan Much, NOHVCC Associate State Partner in Wisconsin, reports on how he is using ‘Great Trails’ to educate club members new to trail building.

    Hello NOHVCC!

    I wanted to share some feedback about the new ‘Great Trails’ book. Not long after the book was released, I started working with a new club to get a trail project started. Some people started making comments about doing “a little cutting and we could be riding in a couple of months.” I explained to them that the days of simply riding in a trail without much planning and poor construction are long gone.

    [​IMG]Over the past year, I’ve been working to help them understand that the trail has to be sustainably constructed, with the best practices, or we will not likely get another shot at additional trail projects around the State. This is largely because we have an old trail in one county that is in pretty bad shape. Unfortunately, people are pointing to it as the likely outcome of a trail project. I point out to them that we do things differently now.

    I asked people involved in the trail project to buy the ‘Great Trails’ book, to learn more about trail design and construction techniques. They’ve been reading and slowly coming to adopt its principles.

    One day, I was working with them on developing the project. As they worked in small groups doing a practical exercise with acetate overlays, I overheard some encouraging conversations that indicated they had internalized much of what I had been trying to get them to buy into.

    They had a meeting today to work on some things, without me being there, and the report I got is that they now “get it.” They realize the project may take 3 years to complete, and they are committed to doing it properly. It was encouraging to hear that the conversations weren’t just to go along with me (since I wasn’t there), but were their own beliefs. It made me smile.

    They are passing the books around and really working on developing their understanding. I have formal trail-training scheduled for some of the members. In that training, they will also learn about Wisconsin water regulations, dealing with oak wilt, and other important add-ons to a trail course.

    Upon my recommendation, the county land manager also purchased the book, and will be part of our trail training class. The book showed him that we can build a proper trail, with little risk to their forestry certification program. Clearly, the Great Trails book is a valuable resource, with up-to-date information and illustrations that help to develop understanding. It would have been very difficult to change some attitudes without this reference.

    ‘Great Trails’ will have a far-ranging impact in Wisconsin over time. We want this trail to be a showcase for other projects we might go after. The project is now approved and the first phase of construction is underway. Without the book, I’m not sure we could have gotten things on the right track.

    I just wanted to let you know, with this as an example, that products like this really make a big difference in the field. Please pass the word to those involved in this great resource.

    Regards,

    Bryan Much, Wisconsin

    Thanks for that report, Bryan. It’s great to hear that ‘Great Trails’ is having a big impact at the grassroots level. Bryan Much is president of the Wisconsin Off-Highway Motorcycle Association (WOHMA) and is a NOHVCC Associate State Partner. In 2016, he was presented with the NOHVCC Partner of the Year Award for his strong OHV advocacy in Wisconsin. He championed the State’s new off-highway motorcycle (OHM) sticker program, allowing motorcyclists to generate funds in order to build and sustain OHM trails.

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    Four years in the making, ‘Great Trails’ was written by one of the industry’s most-respected experts, Dick Dufourd of RecConnect, with assistance from 20 more OHV experts from around the country. The guidebook was funded by 30 OHV agencies and organizations. You can download the book in separate pdf files, free of charge, or purchase hard copies for your club or agency for $30 each. To get started, go to http://gt.nohvcc.org.
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