wolfman saddlebags

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by eal1284, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. Joe Bar

    Joe Bar Middle England

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    The big issue is with the heat coming of the exhaust, if you can sort that, then it may be worth getting in touch with Wolfman directly. They used to do a fitting kit to fit the bags without racks, but withdrew it after problems with a couple of people fitting them directly across the exhaust, despite warnings, and then wondering why they had a hole burnt through. :csm If you understand the risks, they may still have some fixings in stock and might supply.
  2. inbred

    inbred Been here awhile

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    Just ordered them from Wolfman along with racks and TWO gas bags and TWO 24 inch expedition roll up duffels, all in Black. My DRZ 400 is black and my helmet is black and my outfit is black. I'm a totally black rider and love to lurk in the shadows. I stealth camp 95% of the time and want to be invisible at night. I needed packs that simply cannot get wet. And that will stay attached to the bike no matter what. Once I run them through their paces I'll post about my experience.
  3. sonoran

    sonoran friend of P

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    I love my expedition bags but the flimsy internal butterfly stiffeners were really pissing me off. Inspired by fbj913's garbage can trick I decided to follow suit. Visiting Walmart I came across these plastic garbage pails. The base is slightly smaller than the wolfman bag and it tapers slightly outward towards the top. They are also nice and stout.

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    I cut them down to 11 1/2 inches tall using a hacksaw blade, filed the edges to remove burrs and drilled a small hole in the bottom to allow air to escape when inserting them into the saddlebags.

    It's a tight fit. All of the buckles need to be undone to get it in there.

    The result:

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    No more saggy bags! Plus since the inside is white I can actually see the contents.

    Last step, toss the originals into the trash.

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  4. Bonsai Elephant

    Bonsai Elephant Banned

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    1. Lovely set up on that 990!

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    2. With so many people making the same criticism, and spending time and money engineering solutions, it's almost like Wolfman might find it worth their while to either change their product or explain why it's done that way.

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  5. Snowbound

    Snowbound Been here awhile

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    I like the bags" soft" .I use compression bags for my tent ,sleeping bag ,clothes ,pellow ,etc. I just bought a set of Givi racks to mount the Expedition bags on . Berg or Wolfman offer no alternative for my 1150 GS. I jerryrigged the previous mounts on a rail set of Happy Trail Racks. I hope this will be a lot cleaner .I like the soft look because I want the motorcycle as narrow as possible .
  6. high dangler

    high dangler Been here awhile

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    pretty good idea sonoran !
  7. sonoran

    sonoran friend of P

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    1. Thank you!

    2. I agree. If those butterfly stiffeners can be made a bit beefier and laminated into the bag material I think it would be a great improvement.
  8. MTG

    MTG n00b

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    Has anybody tried the WM bags on the side with a Giant loop bag on top?
  9. sonoran

    sonoran friend of P

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    Yes it fits fine.

    I keep my wolfman's on for daily use, the GL Great Basin goes on for extended trips.

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  10. Tonopah

    Tonopah Been here awhile

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    Sonoran:

    "It's a tight fit. All of the buckles need to be undone to get it in there"

    Once the plastice container is in there, can the buckles be hooked up or do you have to leave them undone permanently?
  11. sonoran

    sonoran friend of P

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    No you can adjust the straps and reconnect the buckles. There is plenty of length to accomodate the container.
  12. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    I'm glad it worked out. It's so nice to have something you can actually use around town. Yours probably looks better than mine because I used a pocket knife in the walmart parking lot when I made mine. :lol3
  13. Tonopah

    Tonopah Been here awhile

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    Sonoran: Thanks for the tip. I picked up two of the 5.2 gallon Sterilite containers from Walmart -- cut them to 11.5 inches -- drilled the hole in the bottom to expel air -- and shoved them into the Wolfman bags. VERY tight fit but once inside, EXCELLENT. Sort of the benefits of a soft bag and a hard bag without the downsides of either.
  14. kitsapian

    kitsapian Miserly Adventurer

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    That is a pretty sweet idea. I ditched the stiffeners after a few months and have just been going without. I'll probably give this a shot although I do like being able to collapse the bags when they're not full.
  15. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Where you guys been? I posted the same thing months ago. :D:wink:

  16. Tonopah

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    fbj913: you absolutely deserve credit for the idea. Sonoran refined it some.
    Both methods get rid of the crappy stiffeners and make the bags much easier to use.
  17. wolfmanluggage

    wolfmanluggage Been here awhile

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    Hi Guys
    Eric with Wolfman.
    I am really liking this discussion about the "Wings" as we call them.
    I can talk about the purpose etc. and the design behind them if you wish. They are a bit fussy, I find using the EX-T Stuff never give me an issue.
    The design of the wings is to allow the bags to expand and contract depending on the load so the load can be compressed and stabilized when mounted to the racks. If a ridged non-flexible liner is put in the load will never be tight unless the bags are stuffed full. Since these are Radio Frequency Welded their are no real good places to attach the "Wings" inside the bags. Also the lie flat so our shipping is less -Especially for export. So I decided to "Float the Liners. I am looking into a White or Natural plastic for internal visability.
    that is the design behind the wings.
    I like where this is going though. I really like suggestions.
    PM me any time I'll try to respond in a timely manner, I do get busy.
    Thank You

    Eric/Wolfy:D
  18. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Thanks Eric. I only use the plastic trash cans for around town so I can just throw a few items in and not have to fuss with it. On long trips I take them out to compress and stabilize just like you explained. I don't think the wings are a bad idea. I cut a slit in the side of my trash can insert so that I could still compress a little bit and so it would flex a little.
  19. Tonopah

    Tonopah Been here awhile

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    Hello Eric: With the flexible butterfly stiffeners, the bag will expand or contract around the load thereby keeping things stable. Also, from a shipping standpoint, the stiffeners lie flat.

    Your comments make perfect sense.

    A criticism I have read many times from customers of the Expedition bags is that they are "fiddly" -- which means not suffiently user friendly. The modification of the bags by inserting the cut down Sterilite 5.2 gallon containers (or similar) addresses several issues. Once the container is in and the straps are cinched up -- that is the end of it in that the user really never has to deal with the compression straps again. Also, the useable space inside the bag is maximized -- the bags are far easier to load -- and the white color of the container makes it much easier to see what is going on in there. Using stuff sacks (like those you sell) for items to be placed in the bags does pretty much eliminate the issue of the load shifting around inside the bag.

    I think you should leave things well enough alone though and if the end user (like me) wants to make the change to insert the white container -- we can always do so.

    BTW, I have a number of Wolfman products for several bikes and all Wolfman products are high quality and well designed. Thank you all for that.
  20. wolfmanluggage

    wolfmanluggage Been here awhile

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    Tonopah Would you be willing to try out an idea??
    If so please pm with phone etc I have some ideas.

    woof
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