Woody's 21" vs OEM 19"

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by BMW-K, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    So, I won't go into details but I basically destroyed the cast rims on my GS last weekend. I will say I had a BLAST doing it though! :lol3

    Now I need to replace my rims. The cost of OEM's vs. Woody's is basically the same. I don't do a whole lot of dirt and at 5'8" a 21/18 combo really isn't going to do me favors.

    So, I'm going to stick with the 19/17 sizes but with one question: OEM's vs. Woody's.

    Alternately stated: Tubes vs. Tubless. 'Cuz the Woody's need a tube on the front, minimum. I'm not big on tubes...but the BLING factor of the Woody's is darn hard to avoid!

    One Day I will do the TAT. Not sure if that makes any difference.

    Thoughts?
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  2. bzrider

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    i just did the same i went with 21 front tubless less than oem, plus oem had to be ordered from germany.ZACH at woodies , answered all my questions and put a rush on building the wheel
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  3. Pir8te

    Pir8te over forty victim of fate

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    Woody can build tubeless might want to check with him over in the vendors section
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  4. SCflyer

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    I got a set 19/17 done, superlace - billet hub, excel wheels. Per my conversations with Woody and Zack, they cannot make a 21" wheel tubeless (this the need to order a special built - HP2 front??) but can the 19" and 17" as I have had them do to both mine. Mounted the Tourances, sealed up easy with a bestrest minipump. I had no problems with setting the bead. For the rear they use a 4.00 width rim vs 4.25 as BMW does but it make no difference. Woody said that's the norm and BMW is the oddball on this. If you want to reduce the cost and delivery a bit, call them, as they may have access to a stock set that they can true up or may already have some on their site for sale. If you change your own tires with irons I'd recommend either stay with silver or be sure to use leather or similar when mounting to prevent the scratching. I went with the black (little extra $$ as they have to have these particular wheels colored) to be similar to stock. The can do either a very shiny (spend some time buffing them up) or the standard which is about the same as the OEM black wheels.
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  5. OConnor

    OConnor Bad juju

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    4.25" was supermoto standard width before the OEM SM bikes started showing up.
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  6. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    put something on and stay in that position.
    You're considering doing the TAT on the 1200 and you don't think you want a 21 up front?
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  7. BMW-K

    BMW-K F800GS FTW!

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    No. More like I'm not sure the 21 is necessaray. I've seen several GS's do the TAT on 19/17's.

    If it's an absolute necessity, then that changes things. Kinda like the Haul Road - there's no need for a 21 at all. Fact is, if it's dry out you can run the Haul Road on Slicks.
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  8. libratrades

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    I had Woody build a set for my 09 GS. Black with his billet hubs, stainless spokes superlaced. I am in Orange County if you want to see what the set looks like. I have the factory spoked wheels as well to run more street oriented tires as well. Just pm me.
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  9. hasenwerk

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    I think it is all what you are looking for. For the front, if I had to buy new I would go 21" - just because of the better off road abilities and the fact that a 90/90 21" is much cheaper than a 19" front - the old R100 / R80 GS had 21" as does the F800 - so that speaks some merit of the 21" - tubeless can most certainly be done using a R100 rim but they are not nearly as strong as the Excel rim.

    The 17" rear is the way to go - I considered the 18" for my 1100 GS and my 30" inseam and the good choice of 17" rubber made me stay with 17"

    All that being said I have a Woody's 21" front and an OE 17" rear on my bike - 90/90 21 on the front and 140/80 17 on the rear - tubes on both ends. I am happy with the whole setup!
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  10. mtncrawler

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    I have an 09' too. Have considered a second set from Woody as well. Did you do 21/17 or 19/17? or other?

    If you get bored it would be nice to see both sets of your wheels side by side.
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  11. libratrades

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    I did the 19/17. But probably going to also order the 21 as well. Send me a pm with your email address. I will send you the pictures.
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    Thanks LT - Pm'ed ya...:D
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  13. rider1150gsadv

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    I can confirm that, as I did Haul road on the stock GS rims and Bridgestone 501/502's. Most of the TAT is doable with the big bike too, as long as you keep an eye on the weather. You know the 'pig' likes rolling in deep mud a bit.....:lol3:rofl
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  14. LTCOliverNorth

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    How much was your set of Wheels?
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  15. ROAD DAMAGE

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    Hey BMW-K

    OK, You have to tell us how you thrashed a pair of cast wheels. Were you jumpin the pig? Come on, just a hint, so none of us inmates make the same mistake.

    You can find some smokin' deals out there if you're not set on Woodys or new OEM ----- and if you have some time to shop. I bought a pefect set of cast wheels this month for $700, including brake rotors. I saw another pair that went for $450 this month. I missed them by hours. I've got a pal who bought a spoked set for $800 last year.

    As far as bling, I'm sending my new (used) cast wheels to Woody to powdercoat them ----- RED. Maybe those red wheels will make my GSA run like a DUCATI! Rob
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  16. Disco Dean

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    The quote I got from Woody - which was a few months ago (still saving for them) was $1900 dollars for two rims, 21 + 17 inch, Stainless spokes, billet hubs, all flanges and hardware and Excel's - no rotors.

    Coloured rims cost an additional $150 bucks - hubbs in blue, black, silver, gold etc....

    If I am correct that means - the TWO Woody's rims complete cost just $500 more than a single OEM rim as the front and back OEM cost $2500 new.

    And they are much more sweet - whatever colour you want.

    I'll be ordering those in early summer!!!! :clap
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  17. dendrophobe

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    Interesting. I just got a ballpark figure from him, and for billet hubs superlaced onto 21x1.6 and 18x2.5 A60 Excel rims with Galfer Wave rotors he said around $2000. I hope mine is more right than yours, those Galfers are expensive!
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  18. bzrider

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    Ijust ordered the 21 inch from woodies ,the wheel will be here tues.Asfar as needing it rufully I dont think so. I ride my 1150 in beach sand and florida swamp with a 19, I bent my front wheel and it needed to be trued or replaced ,woodies price was the same for both so ,like owning a 4wheel drive why no go big.these bikes will go anywhere your skill will take you ,pervided you dont use street tires...at all i will let you all know how much differance the 21 is next weekend ,hopefully some clay, gravel, mud ,and florida white beach sand :clap[​IMG]
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  19. woody's wheel works

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    just ran across this thread,,,

    noticed that you all are comparing prices etc ,,please make sure you are comparing apples to apples,,,and tit for tat,,,because there can be a several hundred dollar spread on a wheelset based on new/ used componetry,,,how much we can recycle from your old wheels ,,,the different color combos,,nipples used and so on....not o mention the price increases on 1/1/11:cry

    here's the difference between superlite 21

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    and oem hubbed ,tubeless 21 x-laced wheel[this actually off an1100GS same idea]

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    or oem hubbed conversion to regular rims using Monzter spokes

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    and here's some links with pics n stories:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592717&page=3

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594117

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=521129&
    page=5

    hope that helps a little
    woody

    PS,,,,i read your comments that i've done the TAT,,the Alcan..the pipe-line road etc,,,on 19/17s,,,good lordy,,i know it can be done on honda 50's too,,,,the consistent,overwhelming feed-back that has been posted,,,,is that doing the same on a 21 front made it sooo much easier and enjoyable,,,

    and i will add that the addition of a steering stabilizer will ramp up your enjoyment factor another big notch,,,and that's speaking from experience:wink:

    Please do not construe that it is a must add-on to use with a 21'',,,the steering dampener enhances any of your front wheel configurations..more on that here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606689

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596803&page=18
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  20. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    do they live up to the hype???
    i and others are curious:wink:

    woody
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