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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by OConnor, Jan 29, 2012.
FYYFF is the clan name, Smithy should be able to get you in.
And that's what I get for not owning a tog...
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I gave up last night after 10 games and one win. Every team just fell apart right away. Heck, I lost 3 in a row running the SU26! That never happens.
That's funny, talkin bout bikes in a tank gaming thread on a motorcycle forum
We're still riding in WI despite the cold and snow. Which is why I'm not on the weekends during the day.
just picked up an SU26. you're right, that thing is fun
Can we get back to focusing on MY needs? Thanks....
I'm thinking about unlocking the IS8 but not buying it... Just grinding right past to the IS7.
I have enough xp for the 8 right now.
Anyone out there actually like the IS8?
The IS8 is 164,700 research.
..then it needs a 59,300 barrel to go up the tree to the 7.
Then the IS7 is 189,200.
= 413,200 xp.
Thing is.. if I don't buy the IS8 that saves me 3.5 million silver (+335,000 for that barrel) + all the sidetracks trying to pimp the thing because it'll suck stock (and be a big money loser).
I decided to go up a heavy line because when playing solo, I find that I can have the biggest impact on a random team. If I lead a push, at least some of the time some people will get a clue and follow my lead.
I chose the russian heavy line because the developers of the game are russian and I figured it is the least likely to get nerf'd.
That said.. I really find the lack of barrel depression (compared to the american tanks) a PITA with the russian tanks.. especially battling in the sand dunes
Hey Chris.. did you see the latest caption contest photo?
We should try and one up them and get a photo of a tog on a tog.
chicken. I saw that.
Do the tanks damage each other like that? I tried to do that with my ELC the other day, but crashed/burned badly.
I am sooooooooooo ready for them to take down the @#$%@#$ christmas decorations in the garage.
You drive russian heavy and you complain about is barrel depression. Try driving french for awhile and then you won't complain about anything
Driving the KV-1 felt like cheating, doubly so when I compared it to the BDR G1B.
As I recall some discussions here and on the WoT board, the IS-4 is regarded as the best Russian heavy. I think Dave was saying that he hardly ever sees the IS-7 in action in clan wars.
Man, do they make you work for those French lights. Finally got the amx13/90 researched. Now to make 2.5 million to switch to it. Then there's the billion exp needed to get the next tank. All to be thrown into tier 10 matches.
I'm curious as to if there is a preference in pub matches vs. clan? (I'm not a clan player).
From the stats the IS7 has more appeal to my play style (including being faster and having a faster turret rotation and faster traverse - which is handy when in pub matches nobody is working with you so you can "cover your own arse" ).
Wiki says: "The IS-7 has some of the best sloped frontal-armor in the game, having only two relatively hard to hit weak spots on the frontal armor." and then " the IS-7 has weak rear armor which insures that if it does not travel with others, it will more than likely be tracked, flanked, and destroyed without mercy.". In a pub match - the odds of being flanked are sooo much less than a clan battle where the folks actually have situational awareness and run as a pack to flank your ass when you are tied up.
The wiki says "Many players view the IS-4 as a superior tank to the IS-7 because it does not have the weak rear armor that the IS-7 has." Personally I'll take the tank with the better frontal armor?
It also says:
" A group of IS-4s can easily tip the tide of battle in their favor if they use the right tactics and stick together. "
... in a public match.. that's never going to happen.
So after reading all of that.. the logic in my brain says I'm shot 100 times in the face for every 1 time I'm shot in the arse (at least!) in public matches. Maybe its just me but I'll take more armor up front?
Well-sloped front armor
Above average speed
Well-armored rounded turret
Weak rear armor
Slow turning speed
Slow rate of fire
Below average gun depression
High penetration and rate of fire
Well sloped front armor and small lower glacis
Very strong turret armor
Driver's viewports are smaller than in most IS-tanks.
Low turret traverse rate
Low alpha damage
Thinner frontal armor than most tier X heavies
Of course ALL of this is just mental masturbation for me because of:
1) how many times have I read the stats on a tank.. grinded to it.. and then found it is nothing like I expected (answer: LOTS)
2) this will be my first Tier 10 tank - and for all I know every player at Tier 10 could be a bad ass and my pub matches will be more organized with tons of Team Work? ..but considering the number of Tier 10s I've killed with my Tier 8s.. I'm guessing not
I appreciate your input!
And that's the way it was for a while.
Recently, however, quite a few clans started using them again... though none of the clans that I consider really good at winning clan wars seem to be using them. I could always be wrong - I don't see all clans fight (though wouldn't it be great to see some statistic of what tanks each clan typically brings to clan wars battles?).
Big in What?'s current approach are BatChats, T-62A's, sometimes one single M-48 for its view range and camo ability, 110E5's, 110E4's, Maus and a spattering of T57 Heavies. Keep in mind that What? clan is kind of new, and did beat Guerrillas a few times, then get beat, and it's a constant battle.
Guerrillas clan had, minimally, six BatChats in the battle I got creamed in last night.
But for some reason the current tide across many clans seems to be based on commanders' whims, and many commanders seem to now be choosing the IS-7 over the IS-4 for the mobility alone. While I still consider the IS-4 greater than the IS-7, the IS-7's seem to be getting used again to have the speed to maneuver in a world where 110E5's and medium tanks are so prevalent.
I'm just not sure there is any good answer to which tier-10 to buy or not buy anymore. I'd stay away from many of the non-turreted tier 10's for my first top-tier tanks, but beyond that, and depending on the clan, I'm seeing quite a mix.
If anyone wants to platoon.. I'm grinding this morning and in Teamspeak
I have to go to work or I would.
My life, as I knew it, is over. Six days a week sucks.
Adding to what I wrote, though - for public random battles, I bet the IS-7 can win a lot of games due to its speed and armor. It will serve you well.
Yeah, I'm on my 13 75 and it's not bad. Getting stuck in tier 10 battles kind of blows though. Trust me, they make you work for the other french tank types too. Overall their armor is very very thin so you can never lead a charge without being the first to die and that means watching your moron teammates camp in pub matches assuring defeat.
I do like my LOR 155.50 though, it's damn near as fast as my ELC , makes re-positioning when lights slide through the line quick and easy.
At least the light tanks have some degree of maneuverability and speed though so they can dodge incoming fire. The heavy and td lines are not nimble enough to dodge a watermelon, the FCM excluded.
I sold my IS-8, because it's just too expensive to play well. I decided to hit Tier 10 in mediums, and started with the BatChat 25t, next will be the T-62A. If i want a X heavy, I'll have to think about it. For the most part I top out at IX with my E-75 and am happy, or punching X's in the face with my heavy artillery.
I'll be up for some TOG-on-TOG action later tonight - have to melt some metal first.
Is it just me or does the Lowe break something with every farkin' hit? The majority of times I'm shot in the thing something breaks.
The round I just finished I just had a major screw up... I found myself too far forward and was observing a large group with lots of bushes between us when a light flew by and lit me up on radar.
The shells started coming in.
First hit: we lost a track
Second hit: the driver is dead
third hit: the radio man is dead
fourth hit: we lost a track (the other one)
fifth hit: the engine is hit
sixth hit: we're done for
not a single bounce.
Not a single "normal damage" without "taking something with it".
What a POS tank. Is there something I'm missing?
Yes I know I need to play it more like a TD - but it is a heavy tank after all. When I bought it I didn't know it was made of only the finest Bavarian crystal