World of Tanks

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by OConnor, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. scanda

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    Just discovered this awesome thread!
    I am sporting my new WOT free t-shirt today:evil but haven't been playing too much lately. Just might have to play this weekend.:beer

    In-game name is "ronpaul".
  2. UngaWunga

    UngaWunga Mosquito bait

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    lol.... I shot up a player named Glen Beck. Was fun to blow up. :lol3
    I wanted to rename to Zombie Reagan, but am too cheap to pay for the rename.
  3. janeuner

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    I seem to recall a ronpaul account from back in the days of beta. Same feller?
  4. Big Bird 928

    Big Bird 928 Long timer

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    Any suggestions on if this Video card is worth it for use with WOT.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2898930&sku=Z700-0640

    I don't know if pci express 3.0 will run in the computer, so maybe this other one would be better.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2728844&sku=G458-0610

    this is the computer I am running right now, and i do realize i would have to upgrade the power supply.

    http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...portFAQ&prodSeriesId=4269976&prodTypeId=12454
  5. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    This seems a direct comparison to the card I'm using right now - and that card you posted seems better.

    http://www.hwcompare.com/12922/geforce-gt-640-ddr3-vs-radeon-hd-4670-1gb/

    So... then it comes down to what you're looking for. Realistic terrain, dust and shadows, or just a fast enough card to handle the game well. I'm fine with my card, and I can win some battles with it, so... I'd be more than fine with that GT 640 card you listed there.

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    oops... didn't read that part of your post - you already addressed the power supply

    Dell, and others, seem to build to the lowest specs possible these days.

    Edit: Yeah... you have a very basic computer if that's yours. I'm no super-wattage power-supply fan (I ran a 350 watt power supply for two years with this card... but there is no doubt that the new power supply I just put in the system this month made it all more stable and smoother). Yours says it has a 250 watt power supply... great for a gaming computer from ... 1998 or 2000, but that's quite a bit low, IMHO, to expect it to run your card and system reliably.

    The last time I upgraded a Dell power supply many, many years ago... Dell was using some proprietary connections that I had to get a specific power supply for. I would hope they don't do that anymore, but always double-check.

    Edit: One feature my card has is that it takes up two slots, and draws and expels its own cooling air through the back of the case at that second slot. The GT 640 card you listed is more of a basic design with a heat sink that only dispels the heated air into the system itself. While The GT 640 uses less wattage, 65 vs. my 70 watts, another issue I'd consider is if your case's cooling is up for the job of that much more heat dumped internally. You may want to take a look at the back and front of your case to see if there is a place to put a second fan. Though a good power supply with a new fan may be all the extra cooling you need.
  6. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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    As long as we're on the subject. Here is the system I'm eyeballing. A copy on Windows 8 is another $89. Boomer offered to help set it up too:lol3 Actually, I had a couple local offers to help if I can't figure it out myself.
  7. Big Bird 928

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    and here when I saw this computer I thought of you.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=7486629&sku=B69-0660

    the one you are looking at has twice the ram and a better video card, just at a glance, probably has other improvements too.
  8. papalobster

    papalobster With Gusto!

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  9. MN_Smurf

    MN_Smurf Capt_Confusion

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    Windows 8 is a dog.....stay with Windows 7.
  10. janeuner

    janeuner Get Some

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  12. janeuner

    janeuner Get Some

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    The second card will provide you a marginal-at-best improvement in performance. It would be like trading a Ninja 250 for a CBR250.

    At $65, a Radeon 6670 would give you acceptable performance at 1080p with medium graphics. However, with improved graphics or the next great game that comes along, you may find yourself sorely disappointed. Plain old Chevrolet quality, but it gets the job done. Note that the first card, the GT 640, is on par with the 6670, but the 6670 should give about 15% better performance.

    Moving up to $130, the Radeon 7770 will give you good performance on 1080p resolution at any quality setting. Unlike the previous card, you can expect this device to be usable for at least 5 years as the gaming industry moves forward. Consider this the Buick of graphics cards.

    I use this resource to stay up to date on desktop graphics:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

    If you want to know the comparable level of performance between two products, reference this chart:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

    Edit: Kinda nice how the GTX650 @ $115 fits right between those two options.

    Edit 2: Fixed an error that Dave highlights below.
  13. scanda

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    Not me, normally hate beta's with all the problems that accompany it. I am plying the Arma - DAYZ beta though.:D
  14. Mambo Dave

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    Did I miss something? I thought he was running the on-board graphics of that Dell.

    Sorry if I overlooked you had a card in that system, Sam. I'd agree that those cards aren't much of a trade for most other cards, but I wrote my reply based on the assumption he had no card what-so-ever, and at that point... that $50 card he listed would have been a huge jump for him.

    I still play it occasionally, but the cheats just drive me nuts.

    One time a hacker somehow, maybe accidentally, flashed the keys to hit across the screen ... it was only for like two seconds, but I hit the one of the keys I read, which gave me a list of everyone on the server. I chose one, and instantly popped in on the map behind him (by about 8 feet) in a very heavily wooded area. I bet he shit his pants, but by the time I fired my gun he was gone. Either he was the hacker and transported himself at that point, or he logged off immediately.

    At some point I think all of we DayZ enthusiasts get our fill of the flaws of basing it on the ARMA platform, and we all just stop playing it entirely. It just doesn't seem to be going anywhere good since they can't fix the open source issues.
  15. janeuner

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    Oops, sorry! I did make a mistake there. The first card is a 640. It's on the same level as the Radeon 6670 I mentioned earlier. It's a decent option for $70.

    Comparing the HD 4200 to an Geforce 610.... It might take him from 7fps to 12fps. Stay away from that one.
  16. Big Bird 928

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    yeah mine is onboard right now.
  17. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    LOL... Okay! But it gets even better if he gets the rebate... $49.99 for that card.
  18. rjbergen

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    All PCI Express x16 connections are compatible. Whether it's 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, or 3.0 (the major versions), they all have the same phsyical connection and will work together. The only difference is in data transfer methods, and the connection will run at the speed of the slowest item, whether that's the motherboard or graphics card.

    Having said that, either card you listed will work. The 640 will work better, but it is $30 more. It's really your call. It looks like the 640 is a great bang for your buck.

    Tom's Hardware has graphic card rankings based on performance and also price. I can't seem to find what I'm looking for right now, but I know furgal has it. Maybe he'll post here or you can catch him in TS. We're both computer nerds and enjoy talking about them quite a bit lol

    Edit: I see Jane beat me too it. Got the Tom's links I was looking for and a good summary. I'd say for the price, the 640 you listed would be fine. If you can go a little higher, you can get more performance for just a tad more.
  19. janeuner

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    After rebate, the 6670 is $50 as well. But the whole "we'll give you $20 whenever we get around to it" thing was never my cup of tea. I try to ignore rebates when comparing cards.

    Edited my earlier suggestions accordingly.
  20. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    FWIW:

    One thing to note with nVidia cards - the 2nd digit is the "performance level" and the first digit is the series; similar to BMW cars where the first digit is the series and the 2nd digit is the engine line.

    For example: a 285 is about the same speed as a 640 because the 8 was the fastest of the 2 series - the 4 is one of the slowest of the 6 series. What you do get with the 6 series is better power consumption (less) and less noise.

    In the higher end cards for example, a 560 is significantly faster than a 650 - even though it is older.
    With the slower cards - the newer models are *usually* better.

    ATI cards are usually cheaper for cards with similar benchmark numbers; that said I've had so many issues with ATI Catalyst drivers over the years I avoid them when I can (the irony being I went to school with one of the guys that wrote the original Mach ATI drivers).

    Here is another Benchmark site to give you an idea of what cards fit where:
    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
    Like with any benchmark there is fluctuation depending on what exactly is doing what (one card may be faster doing A but slower doing B) - but it gives you the general idea of where cards fit in the overall picture (consider the ratio as opposed to the exact number)

    :freaky.