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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by OConnor, Jan 29, 2012.
Absolute bollocks its all about the Kills!!!!!!!
Well said......the only thing I would add is that by the time you get to Tier 6 arty, you better know how to counterbattery enemy arty. You should know where they typically hide and how to find their tracers and hit them. It's a lost skill in the current game community.
One of my favorite things to do when I first got the range to be able to was counter arty, then I got bored with it, well actually arty in general.
Theaty and Smurf,
I agree with you both.
I considered myself a pretty adept arty when I used to play it, but I gave up one, then the other, tier 6 arty after the pubs got worse and worse (just last month I tried one more time in the S-51 (263 battles, GW Panther 254 battles)... either top score or top damager for three rounds in a row, yet all were losses - I've hit a T-50 at full-tilt, who went invisible, from across the map with my Grille in a company battle two months ago... I've got the 'feel' for movement and tanks such that I'm able to take those invisible shots sometimes).
I have two tier 7 arty researched. I will not buy them, nor play higher tier arty any longer.
But with what mediocre skills I've got at arty, I find it both strange and sad that I keep meeting people who want to play arty, and who claim they're arty specialists, when they really aren't doing all they can to win games. This is telling about some people's personality when they're so bad at tanks that they claim they're "good" at arty, yet they really aren't good at either.
Well, whatever. I won't enter battles with that specific clan mate if he's playing arty until he gets XVM.
Likewise if I see a platoon mate using a medium like a heavy, fighting from heavy spots, game after game - I just sorta stop playing with those guys. Anyone who was in the game when the Type 59's first came out knows how mediums can be used to route and crush an opposing team (and that goes right up the line to tier 9 and tier 10 mediums), but most mediums these days just keep rushing up to farther spots to fight / peek-a-boo the enemy frontally as if they're in heavies.
It is, isn't it. Either they counter battery too much and don't support the front lines, or they don't counter at all. I've got a little rule of thumb for whether I CB or not: if there are four or more arty, I begin with a bit of CB work. Or if their arty is really good. I have been counterbatteried for an entire match -- ten minutes and the guy didn't give up until our light finally got to him. He never hit me once and had to pay a lot of money to replenish those shells. In the meantime he was useless to his team. One, maybe two shots is all I'll lob. If it moves and survives, let it go -- he knows what he's doing. Typically, before the enemy gets spotted by the tanks on the ground, I check the usual hiding spots -- and the paths from spawn to them -- for fallen trees, broken fences, stuff like that. Often I see a tree fall and know where somebody is heading. Then I wait a bit after the two teams have spotted each other to see a trace. If none comes in the first 15 or 30 seconds or so, I ignore CB and support the front line because, by then, the best enemy player is usually lit up and I've already got a round loaded.
Mambo Dave & Big Bird:
I can see getting bored with Arty, especially in pub matches. I do too, at times. And when I'm bored it shows in my lack of performance. I am not claiming to be good because I am far from it. And yeah, I need to learn how to fight with some of my meds better. But at least I know that and am actively trying to improve, rather than the "meh" attitude of many med players. Being top damager and still taking a loss, that's all to familiar a sight and feeling. When I hear the phrase "Arty Specialist" come from someones mouth I almost always right-click->ignore. To me, that just means that player should stick to being a baby seal. If you don't understand how to play heavy, medium, light, and td, as an arty you are going to suck hard. Half the time in matches I am asking myself, "Where would I have gone if I was that tank lit up for 1/2 second?" Then I can get myself focused and ready to fire when one of my team mates lights them up. I'm not always right, but I feel like I'm getting better.
Anyways, less talking, more shooting tanks. :) Dear me this AMX38. Not my favorite tank yet. This grind to the ELC AMX is going to be a long one for me.
well said, and just to be clear, I don't think I am gods gift to the game when playing arty, actually much less than that... there are other places my skills can be better used such as pissing people off with an invisa-TD.
On the TS grinding my M2 light. 199 games so far... still haven't figured anything out besides how to sorta scout and how to run the T18.
looks like someone has gun envy...
Woot! My first 1st-class mastery and steel wall! T18 for the independent win!
And 15 detections in my M3!
and 15 detections in your Lee? um, that may be an indication that you were to far out in an unsupported position.
Nearly made it back around in the shooting gallery.
Did you atleast get the Patrol duty award?
Same as here WF_Jester
Well, I just had the best battle I've had in a very bad day.....
What made that your best battle Bri?
You've done a lot more than 3600 damage before...
My best battle of the day.....I've been getting my ass kicked today. High efficiency, next to no wins. Think I need to take a few days off. Ask Dave how my luck was this evening. He was a witness.
It has been a week since I've managed a 50% win rate. It is extremely frustrating. I guess I should just take a few days off of tanks.
It was quite a few of our luck. The day turned silly with, I can only guess, either the crew training or the running of tanks to earn money for the tier 8 sale.
We don't know, but some time after about 1 PM, eastern, today a large mass of poor players all seemingly logged in at the same time.
Nothing has been too good since, but then Brian and I both were getting crap teams in our platoons.
AMX 50 100
are both in the house. Two quick training rooms with Brian taught me a valuable lesson about the AMX 50 100, and I'm looking forward to playing the tank even though I have no interest in the end-game of the 50B.
The 4502A will have to wait for me to play it. I don't have the funds nor the energy to fix it up just yet.
Scout. 2 of them so far. You have to win to get it, so you have to be almost smart about it. Chatting before the match helps. Correction: M2 Light tank (T:2)