Worst Bike Lending Experience?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Gonzoso, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. Vertical C

    Vertical C Long timer

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    You cant legally ride either of those bikes here as a learner...

    Ayway mine are insured for more than I would get for them if I tried to sell. It would be only bad if they didnt fully smash it. Even hen its like oh well. My brother smashed my 250 ninja, as a noob years ago when he borrowed it. We worked out a deal to pay for it , I have lent his and he has lent mine lots of times since.

    People get worked up about bikes but they can be replaced. They are there as tools to have fun, one way to have fun with them is to trade for other bikes. To have a rule that you dont lend out bikes seems to be cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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  2. Scratch33

    Scratch33 Fugawi?

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    Out for a day ride in the twisties some years ago. Girlfriend's on her Viffer and I'm on my FZ1. After a couple hours we swap bikes - she takes off leading. We come up on a tight downhill lefty with unexpected gravel in the curve - I lose sight of her in the turn. As I complete the curve I look up ahead to see my Fizzy sliding down the road in a shower of sparks and GF sliding towards the ditch, limp as a rag doll.
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  3. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    Swapping bikes is not the same as lending bikes. If the Swap is even remotely equitable, you're covered. Plus if the bikes are similar, there's a pretty good chance the other rider is able to handle yours and vice-versa.

    If I borrow a bike, I am both willing and able to pay for the repairs, pay the deductible and/or buy the bike. I think about this BEFORE I accept the keys. It took me a number of years to realize that not evereybody shares this philosophy when it comes to taking risks with other peoples' property.

    One of my ex's co-workers used her car at lunch time while they were car pooling to work and managed to write it off. Not only did this bitch fail to pay the deductible but she never even offered to pick my ex up from home, despite living fairly close and knowing my wife had no alternate transportation to get to the carpool rendezvous. I was never allowed to meet this woman lest I should share my opinion on the matter.
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  4. Scratch33

    Scratch33 Fugawi?

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    I'd say that would kinda depend on the outcome. :lol3
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  5. mattness

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    my buddy asked if he could come over and ride one of my bikes since i have 6. i said do you have an endorsement? he said, yep!

    so i get on my vmax and put him on my fury... he cant figure out how to get my helmet strap through the loops... so i helped him get it on... i got kinda nervous but he swore he could ride..

    he goes to start my bike but every time he puts it in gear it dies... i was like cmon bro the kickstand duh... but again he swore he could ride...

    i went ahead and pulled halfway up the driveway and noticed he wasnt following so i stopped and looked back...

    suddenly, my honda fury was full throttle up a huge dirt bank in my front yard... then straight across our gravel parking lot straighjt for our work trucks... full throttle... his feet werent on the pegs... the front wheel was locked up because he was mashing the front brake for dear life... it was roosting gravel with the rear tire... i was like CLUTCH! CLUTCH!!!

    luckily he went down right before he smashed one of the work trucks.

    so i put him on a honda hawk 400. he did better but in one turn he target fixated on a huge jacked up black ford f150... he took his feet off the pegs and went right into that trucks lane... luckily the truck driver was awake and went completely off the road....

    then pulling back into the driveway... i pull up and stop and wait for him to turn in... he pulls into the driveway but front brakes it... so it washes out... but then he mashes the throttle while trying to hold on... he was pinned under the bike and it was spinning around and around with him under it... it threw gravel in all directions... i was like KILL SWITCH!!! HIT THE KILL SWITCH!!1

    sadly that time didnt go so well for him cuz his leg was under the exhaust pipe....

    he never asked to ride again :(
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  6. baloneyskin daddy

    baloneyskin daddy bikaholic

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    So after he almost kills himself on his 1st attempt on one of your bikes you hadn't seen enough so you offer him another shot on a different bike. Really.:eek1
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  7. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    I watched mah older bro toss mah R65LS down the road in front of me too, butt I wuz standing outside his house. :muutt
    Thought he wuz go'in too fast ta make the turn into his court, 'n sure 'nuff he lost the front at 'bout 40, (Remember bias ply tires?) 'n slid 'n rolled get'n sum major rash (Cuz he wuz only wear'n jeans, a t shirt; no helmet.) 'n a few broken ribs. (We figured his ribs broke on the six pack of Oly he wuz carrying!:lol3 )
    Kinda felt bad for his sorry-ass, butt I made him pay for sum of the shit he busted. :evil
    Had the bike back on the road, 'n his ribs wuz still busted! :D

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  8. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave I demand proof, sir.

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    The guy I sold my Vulcan 800 to just about was the same kind of guy.

    Swore he had ridden. No, he had never owned a bike, but a girlfriend of his had owned a Harley and he had ridden that, said he.

    Oh, and could I ride it to his house for him after he bought it?

    I knew the type, but it's a sad state of affairs to see a grown man lying so badly when I wouldn't have judged him one way or the other.

    I spent time there at his house teaching him about the clutch and getting him started going up and down the street.
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  9. Spaggy

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    When I was 18 I bought a brand new 1979 Suzuki GS 850. That winter I stored it at a buddys shop when I was away working. One very warm February day, I decided to go get it and go for a spin. Turns out my "buddy" had the same idea and took it out and totalled it.
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  10. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    So did he "man up" and fix it or pay for it?
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  11. revrandy

    revrandy The Riding Rev.

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    When I was in the process of moving, my partner and I switched vehicles. I took his jeep and he took my Weestrom. One morning just as I am getting out of the shower, the phone rings. It is the police department where he was, letting me know he was on his way to the hospital and could I arrange to pick up the bike, now lying on the side of the road. As I was 1,000 miles away, that was not possible.

    A long day of driving his Jeep to his location, I find out he washed out the rear end in the rain when he locked up the brakes trying to stop for a red light. Considering he had years of experience, most of it on an SS, I was surprised at the crash, but it happens.

    Bike wasn't a write-off but damage was pretty good. Insurance fixed it up good. He hasn't ridden since, the memories of surgery etc. still linger in his mind years later.
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  12. duck

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    When I was 12 my dad had a work friend of his and family up to our cabin. They had a son about my age who brought a Honda 50CC minibike. (I was insanely jealous because my parents were the typical anti-motorcycle parents so I'd never get to own something like that in a million years.)

    Anyhow, he took me for some rides up and down our dirt driveway and down the road a ways. Then he asked me if I wanted to try it. Fuck yeah!

    I then road it up and down the driveway with him on the back so he could be sure that I had a clue. I did flawlessly.

    Then came the moment of truth, riding it solo. Everyone was standing right there, all four parents and the other kid. Boy, did I fuck up. It had an "automatic" transmission of some sort so it was twist-n-go. Anyhow, when it started moving I tried braking. Unfortunately, I was used to the brakes on my bicycle and rolling my right hand back when I braked so the harder I tried to brake the more throttle I gave it. The throttle had more oomph than the brakes so the harder I tried to brake, the faster I went. About 15 feet in front of me there was about a two and a half foot gap between a station wagon and a tool shed. Somehow, scared shitless, I shot that gap and then went flying off into the bushes where I face planted. Luckily I didn't hurt the other kid's minibike.

    Needless to say, that was the end of my first moto experience.

    (I'm sure glad YouTube wasn't around back then.:lol3)
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  13. echo15

    echo15 Been here awhile

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    1976 I let a possible purchaser test ride my '64 BSA Lightning. He didn't just wreck it; He ended up riding it into a (fairly deep) pond. Muddy water got sucked into the intake... it damn near completely ruined that bike's engine.

    Anyway, I'm a bit wiser today. I will let my son ride my bikes cause I know he can (I would let my daughter as well, but since she's 5'0" she would probably lose it at a stop, she's out).
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  14. Scratch33

    Scratch33 Fugawi?

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    Your name isn't Bronson by any chance? :lol3
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  15. KustomizingKid

    KustomizingKid Been here awhile

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    My buddy bought a bike in my state and stored it with me until I could bring it out to him (weather). Anyways I left work to run home right before turning and burning to his place 4 hours away. I am 15 min from home on the freeway when A car merges into my lane and I brake hard and the front tire locks.

    Bike was scratched and the bars were fubar... The next day I rode it out to him and threw new bars on it. He let me off easy and I paid for the bars.
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  16. hscrugby

    hscrugby "That guy"

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    Now to depress this thread.
    One of my best friends in high school had a cbr600..

    Well he thought he got his gf pregnant, needed money, sold the bike to me fairly cheap with the deal he could still ride it some, and if his finances got back, he'd buy it back...
    I rode it a few times, had it for about 2 months. Saw him at a friends house, I didn't realize he was in a bad mood (girl yelled at him and told him wasn't even his kid, she was still pregnant) he apparently downed a bunch of shots of vodka, saw me, asked to take the bike for a spin.....


    Some friends saw me asked if I'd seen Mike, told them he took my bike for a spin... we hopped in a truck and went hauling ass to try and find him hoping he wouldn't get pulled over, in a wreck etc.

    Troopers were already on the scene, and a state trooper had already almost gotten to my parents house to tell my folks I was dead. He hit the back of a empty logging trailer on the side of the road upwards of 100 the police guessed. His head/helmet cleared the back of the trailer, not the rest of him or the bike. I didn't touch another bike for about 8 years.






    Now for the other side, I was on a buddy of mine from college that had spare bikes, (sponsored racer, had several older bikes laying around) so we "plated" a cbr600 for me.. Which meant we put a plate from something else on it, cut a hole in the race fairings and hooked up a cheap light from walmart, and a cheap tail light. two sided tape for some "turn signals" (just some yellow lens covers so it would look like it had signals. there were no lamps behind them) we rode together a bunch no issues. then we were riding at a "spirited pace" down some country roads, I hit a deer going that "spirited pace" somehow I flew through the air holding the deer, and didn't die. the bike plowed into a bank ~3'-4' tall and disintegrated. both rims shattered, etc etc. the engine split apart, total disintegration. I managed to come out "ok" for the speed, cracked sternum, tons of ribs, both collar bones, a bit dumber etc... then walked most of the way back till he noticed i wasn't catching up and came back towards his dorm. (I was out of school, he was still in college. )

    I offered to pay him for the bike, he told me to not worry about it...
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  17. quasigentrified

    quasigentrified Trumpet Strumpet

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    damn. damn. some good lessons in this!
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  18. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Just read the whole thread.
    It reinforces my basic rule.
    I don't loan bikes. I do swap bikes with guys I'm out riding with, but , loan a bike out ? Nope.
    I have broken my rule ,once I prepped ,insured and plated 3 bikes of mine and hauled them to Bike Week for a couple of guys I knew and one I didn't to ride around Daytona for the week. That experiment went O.K. but, the stress kept me in the bars til closing night after night. Yep. that's it,the stress.
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  19. FloorPoor

    FloorPoor Been here awhile

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    I let a friend ride my pristine condition Honda Reflex when we were 15. He started hauling ass around like it was a motocross bike, target fixated on a large rock pile, grabbed a whole bunch of front brake and no rear and promptly endo'ed it directly into thus said pile of jagged lava rocks. Forks were bent, bars were bent, instrument cluster was shattered, the fuel tank had a huge dent in it, and the fender was broken :cry He was a little scraped up too, but ok.

    It wouldn't have bothered me much except I had only had the bike a couple weeks, and he never even offered to pay to repair it, in fact he refused, said there was something wrong with the brakes :huh What, like they actually worked?

    Anyway, the list of people who I'll let barrow my bike now is one name long. We have an agreement if he wants to take a n00b dual sporting, HE can ride MY bike, and the n00b can ride HIS. It works the same way if I want to use one of his bikes to take a guest riding.

    He has more bikes then me, and he says I can ride anyone of them anytime I want, but I use this privilege vary sparingly, not wanting to be the jerk that totals a bike that's not mine.
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  20. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    My worst wasn't a huge loss. My brother and I built a dirt bike from a pile of spare parts: 250 frame, with a 175 2-stroke motor chicken wired on, and a gas tank off a 70cc kids bike. We had some fun in the back field, as long as we kept the chicken wire twisted tight. We let this townie guy ride it, who said he had experience riding dirt bikes. Well, he didn't know how to shift, and took the bike for a 2 mile ride in first gear. After about 5 minutes, it welded itself together, and all the parts went back into the pile. Easy come, easy go.

    Two of my good friends had a worse experience. One guy let the other ride his pristine Yamaha Seca II, and he low sided it on Highway 9. The friend stepped up and bought the bike for what is was worth before the damage. He fixed it up and rode it for years. The money that he paid went toward buying a CBR600F1, so the first friend was quite happy about the whole thing.
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