Would a Ninja 250 be a good bike to take to California Superbike School?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Dauntless, May 9, 2012.

  1. Dauntless

    Dauntless Been here awhile

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    I am going to take the one day course at the California Superbike School. I have never been on a track before but I have been riding street bikes for 15 years. Should I use their BMW S1000RRs or bring my own bike. I currently have an R1200R but I have been thinking about buying a Ninja 250.
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  2. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    Use their bike.

    If you are worried about damaging it, then buy the waiver insurance and have at it.
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  3. ikonoklass

    ikonoklass Kountersteering Krew

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    My only concern would be your lack of speed relative to everyone else. The last time I was there, Karel Abraham was in the class, and he lapped the whole field repeatedly. He missed me by inches one time and apologized. Passing happens constantly, but i don't think it's particularly safe to be way slower than everyo else. On the other hand, Keith would probably say it was fine.
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  4. outlaws justice

    outlaws justice Long timer

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    I used a 500 Ninja on my first track day. If it is a tight technical track no problem, use the small bike and work on your cornering skills, if there is a lot of big straights and places to make big speed the 250 might not be a good choice. If that is the case look for a SV650 or something along those lines.
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  5. DAKEZ

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    It would be a FUN bike to take to Superbike School.
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  6. Mr. Magoo

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    I've taken the school. Use their bikes. Have a great time!
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    And since the BMW S1000rr has all of those gee-whiz electronics and the worlds finest ABS... well, you can just pin it and enjoy the ride! :eek1




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  8. fast4d

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    use the school bike and damage it? you'll be responsible up to x amount. I think the limit is $2500 but please ask them.

    ninja 250 is fine. I've see FG650/dualsport type bikes there.
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  9. Jim Moore

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    I'd either take the 12R or rent one of the school bikes. The 12R woudl be good practice for yoru daily rides. Otoh, if you've never been on a superbike, they're ... well ... terrifying. In a good way.
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    The inertia of stupidity, I learn something new every day.
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    B.Curvin Feral Chia tamer

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    Go for it. You'll be laughing in your helmet when you go around the outside of the guy on the S1000RR that left his 250 at home. :deal
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  12. Mr. Magoo

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    What track?
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  13. Dauntless

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  14. car94

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    Slow bikes are FUN to ride fast! I have taken my CRF230 with knobbies to the track. My XR650 and I have ridden a Ninja 250.
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  15. Misti Hurst

    Misti Hurst Racer. Writer. Coach

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    I'm a coach with the school and have been for the past 8 years. I'd say do whatever you are most comfortable with :) It is easier to ride the school bikes as you don't have to worry about transporting it to the track, gas, maintenance, and fixing it if you crash. The S1000RR's are amazing and fun to ride and you are only liable up to a certain amount (ask the office exactly what that is) so if you crash and only do $100 worth of damage then that is all you pay.

    The Ninja 250 would be absolutely fine to ride at the school, we have students on all manner of bikes and sometimes the slowest ones are the ones on the "fastest" bikes.

    Enjoy and have FUN whatever bike you choose and if you have any more questions about the school then just let me know and I'd be happy to answer.

    Hehehehehe, soooo true!! :D
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    Or crapping in your pants when that out of control guy "gets you back" with that 170 extra hp in the straight away 3" away from you with a 100mph delta. :lol3
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  17. devo2002

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    I'd rather a slower bike I know inside and out then a superbike I have no experience on. My bud rides his supermoto dr650 on the track, kills it in the curves but looses on the straightaway, doesn't take away from his thrill
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    The fact that I could try the S1000RR for relatively little money and little risk at California Superbike School was a big motivator for me. And with all the coaching you get, you'll get the hang of it quickly, particularly as a level 1 student.

    I would not want to do this particular school on a slow bike. Just because I would not want to have to deal with all mediocre riders on powerful bikes seeing me as their only chance to overtake someone.
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  19. Go Irish75

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    I've taken all the level classes offered by Keith Code and his Califorinia SBK school. You will have the smallest displacement bike if you bring the Ninja 250, but that does not mean you will be the slowest, not able to learn, not able to apply all that is taught, and have a great time. I'm not familiar with your track, but the Ninja 250 wouldve been a blast at Blackhawk Farms Raceway where I took the first one day school, but NOT so much fun on the larger Road America Raceway in Elkhart Lake where I took the other levels. The smaller more technical tracks you will find yourself flicking it around and able to corner better than some weekend warriors on their GSXR's and R1's with the nice flat spot tires. If I remember right, for the one day Level 1 cornering class, there is no passing (minus the instructor), so dont worry about being run over. You head out onto the track in your small groups, like a 3 or 4 to one ratio of student to instructor, so dont worry about the peer pressure. Theres a bit of classroom too so bike displacement plays no factor there obviously. I wouldnt worry about wrecking, its not a race, its actually a relaxed learning environment. The wrecks I have seen at those schools come from the much larger displacement bikes with much larger ego's aboard. Your instructor may (i say may) put you at the back of the group (adjustable during the day), or he may have you run out front. They drop back in line to watch you, then they get in front of you for you to watch them and follow their lines and also they give you hand signals to let you know when to roll on the throttle through an apex. Most ride the thing one handed becuse they are giving the students signals with their other hand the entire time. Good times, take YOUR own bike and have fun. Why learn on some bike youre never gonna ride?
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  20. BeemerGirlRT

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    This.

    It is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike slow! :D

    (So says the girl who loves to wring out her Ninja 250!)
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