Would you trade an 07 F650GS for a TR650?

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  1. Harry Potter

    Harry Potter Been here awhile

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    Terra TR650 owners is this bike so good that you would trade a very nice F650GS single to get one? I've read the Husky Terra TR650 specs are better than the Dakar and Sertao but is the actual bike a real dual sport upgrade? Knowing that is is now a discontiued one year bike with limited used and maybe new parts availability would you still buy one today? Thanks for your time.
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  2. Beemermcr

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    Got rid of a KTM 640e, KTM 690 and a BMW 1200 GSA to wind up with a Terra and a DRZ400e -----

    Yes, would still buy today, probably the Strada for a grand less than I paid in January: many of the parts on your bike fit the Husky. Given how much better this bike is than most 650s, how well it has sold, I think a version will be around for a long while.
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    I think the Terra is a great bike and would most likely out preform any of the BMW 650's out there today as a true dual sport bike. One exception would be the 2007 BMW 650 (X-Challenge) and possibly the 2007-2009 (X-Country). These two bikes are a lot like the Terra and the Strada and the BMW's weight is 336 dry, not sure what the Huskies are. These BMW's didn't sell well at the time, but today especially the X-Challenge is a hot seller used and it's easy to sell a nice one in the $5000-6000 dollar range. The success of the Terra should tell BMW something and bring back the 650 X-Challenge, because who know if there will be a new Terra or Strada in 2014. I have owned a 2001 BMW 650 Dakar and enjoyed the bike for both on and off road riding, but no single track riding. The standard 650GS was not to my liking because of it's size and feel, mainly because I'm 6'1" and 230lbs., the Dakar's and Sertao's just have that dual sport feeling and would be a much better road bike, they weight around 425lbs. which gives them a better highway ride, but feel lighter off road then say a KLR 650 of equal weight. All are very good bikes, just pick the one that fits your body and ride. Dual sport riding is different things to different riders, you need to pick the bike that fits your riding style. Looking at the list of bikes you own, you might try the WR250R or the CRF250L, if more off road riding is what you want, these bikes are doing the TAT, Continental Divide, Forever West rides, not great highway cruisers, but fun off road for sure.

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  4. snailrider

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    I went with the Terra. I like the extra power, I like the less weight. I do not need a windscreen and ABS. I like my headlight to turn with the bars. When I get to a cliff at night, I do not need to break out a handheld spotlight to survey my route.

    BMW puts street tires on their dual purpose bikes, that should be the indicator.

    BMW did not sell the Terra and Srada to Peirer.
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  5. LukasM

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    The F650/G650 are simply heavy pigs, the Terra and Strada are too but at least they have a better engine with a lot more power!

    My vote goes to Husky if you want new, or a used X-Challenge or X-Country because they are so much lighter and there are lots of good aftermarket parts available for them.
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  6. Harry Potter

    Harry Potter Been here awhile

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    Thanks very much for the replies. All very good comments.
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    I got my info from the dealers mouth so to speak. Status on future Strada and Terra is unknown. Probably will not see anymore. In the deal, BMW has to support them for 10 years from what is being talked about. 2 year production run of one of the most highly acclaimed bikes.
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    It would take me about one heartbeat to say Yes.
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  11. Harry Potter

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    Thanks again for the additional replies. TRAINMAN you are on the right track, I do have a WR250R in the stable and it fills a nich very well. My 07 F650GS is my least fun, leasted used bike. I could just sell it, hope that someday my wife will graduate to it from a TW200, or trade it in on a Terra TR650. I think my son's VStrom does dirt work better than my F650GS. The WR250R and 2011 R1200GS could easily be the only two bikes I need as I get closer to 60. Something in the middle like the Terra just seems like a good idea. Thanks everyone.
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  12. eakins

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    thanks. that's the best insight to date.
    no mention either direction if the TR goes away completely or the package evolves quickly with a new motor.
    he does mention a problem with BMW engine-based bikes and diag equip.

    there is talk elsewhere on ADV that Berg is going away but it sure does NOT sound that way.
    sounds like Berg and Husky will actually be sold together as they both share Swedish heritage.

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  13. LukasM

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    This is not talk, it's a fact.

    2014 is the last year for Husaberg as a brand, although their technology (=KTM) will heavily influence the upcoming Huskies.
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    Oh yeah?
    Has Pierer said that elsewhere and after this article? That article above seems to say otherwise (top of 2nd column) that both will exist side by side?
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    This was released to the press more than a week ago, just read some news sites or check the Husaberg website.
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  16. eakins

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    thanks for the updated info Lucas.
    no date on that article.


    ...so that means existing Berg dealers are now Husky dealers in a broad sense as Husky and Berg become one?


    is this the latest press release?


    HUSQVARNA AND HUSABERG REUNITED

    “WE BRING TOGETHER WHAT BELONGS TOGETHER”

    The year 2013 will be remembered in motorcycling history as the year that Husqvarna was reborn.

    HUSQVARNA STARTS A NEW ERA OF GREAT SUCCESS
    Following the acquisition of Husqvarna by Pierer Industries AG and after careful analysis and evaluation of all aspects, it was decided to reunite what came out of shared roots 25 years ago. In other words, Husqvarna will enter a positive new era by combining its own rich heritage with Husaberg’s state-of-the-art technology.

    NEW HUSQVARNA MODEL LINEUP TO BE PRESENTED IN OCTOBER
    The new generation of Husqvarna models is already in progress: a new line-up, with brand new exclusive design and the latest technology is being developed and will be offered in the segments Enduro, Motocross and Sportminicycles. There will also be exciting, newly developed products in the Supermoto segment – one in which Husqvarna has enjoyed a lot of success in recent years.

    DON´T MISS THE PRESENTATION OF THE NEW HUSQVARNA OFFROAD LINEUP IN SWEDEN; PLANNED FOR EARLY OCTOBER 2013. The new line-up will be presented to the big fan community at the international EICMA show in Milan in early November.

    HUSQVARNA SPORTMOTORCYCLE GMBH, OPERATIONAL AS OF OCTOBER 2013
    As of October 2013, the new group company “Husqvarna Sportmotorcyle GmbH” based in Mattighofen, Austria, will be fully operational in the production and sale of the new model range to the Husqvarna network of dealers and distributors. Parts supply and Customer Service for all Husqvarna models up to and including Model Year 2013 are guaranteed for the years to come and will remain at the current business location in Biandronno (VA), Italy.


    then I found this:
    http://www.husaberg.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17433

    May 16, 2013 - In a Thursday letter sent to dealers, Hubert Trunkenpolz of KTM Sportmotorcycle AG and Stefan Pierer of Pierer Industries announced the reunification of Husaberg and Husqvarna under the Husqvarna brand.

    "After a careful analysis and evaluation of all aspects, it was concluded to reunite what
    arose from the same roots 25 years ago. ln other words, combining the worldwide
    heritage of Husqvarna with the latest state-of-the-art technology of Husaberg will lead
    Husqvarna to a new era of great success."

    An all new Husqvarna lineup is in the works to be debuted in October, 2013 and will include Enduro, Motocross, Sportminicycles and Supermoto segments. The new group company "Husqvarna Sportmotorcycle GmbH will be operational in Mattighofen, Austria as of October 2013. It appears all Husqvarna dealers will be retained and all Husaberg dealers will become Husqvarna dealers.

    "As of October 2013, the new group company "Husqvarna Sportmotorcyte GmbH" based in
    Mattighofen, Austria, will be fully operational in the production and sale of the new
    model range to the Husqvarna network of dealers and distributors, which will be based on
    the existing Husqvarna and Husaberg sales network. Parts supply and Customer Service for
    all Husqvarna models up to and including Model Year'13 are guaranteed for the years to
    come and will remain at the current site in Biandronno (VA-ltaly)."

    We are very sad to see the Husaberg brand go, however, the Husaberg philosophy is sure to live on in the new Husqvarna product. Husqvarna fans should be very excited. The brand will get a major technology boost and parts & accessories will be much more available using KTM's distribution network.

    The current 2013 Husaberg models will be the last of the blue models coming from Austria. Inventory is already low and these models are sure to sell out as soon as news of this merger gets spread. Our current inventory includes an FE250, FE501 and a TE250. Contact Jesse in sales for more information, 304-932-0437.


    and this:

    This afternoon I had a conversation with a friend who is the autorize Husaberg dealer here in Venezuela, and told me that the 2014 husaberg models will have a deeper blue plastics with the same technology of the 2013 model with just one detail, it will have the husqvarna badge! No more Husaberg brand!
    Husqvarna is coming back to his Blue and Yellow born land colors.


    ...so the Husky name plate was bought in one sense just to slap on Berg bikes.
    future bikes are Berg engineered and Husky branded.

    also found an interesting tid-bit that Cagiva, then BMW and now KTM liscense the Husky name to use on bikes from original Husky company. it's a 10 yr license that needs renew every 10.
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  17. Harry Potter

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    I called Sturgis BMW-Husky this moring and they sold their last Terra TR650 yesterday.
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  18. SafteyCushion

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    As another owner of a 2007 f650gs, and someone whose has had a nice little ride on the Terra as well, I'm not sure I'd make the trade. Beyond the specs, the 07 f650gs is a damn good little bike. It's the last year of the European made Rotax thumper, and I think it will be a good, reliable, and dare I say fun bike for many years to come. I think the f650gs is a lot nicer on the road, and I expect the Terra would be much nicer in the dirt. I wouldn't want to put very many hours on the Terra on the pavement, and I'd rather not ride very challenging terrain on the f650gs.

    Dual sports are about compromise, and its a matter of where you want to draw the line. I'd love to have a reliable thumper that's better on the dirt than my 650 but still as good on the road. I am not sure that bike exists.

    I think of the f650gs as one that will do everything the 1200gs will do, just not as fast and comfortably for the day-long rides. Both bikes are fun in the twisties both are fine on dirt roads. Once the dirt gets at all challenging, then I think smaller is better. The wr 250r is a lot more fun in the dirt than the bigger bikes. But if I were on a bigger bike, I think I'd be happier to be on the Terra than the f650gs at that point.

    Good luck with your choice! Keep us posted on where you come out.
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    put something on and stay in that position.
    3.5 gallon fuel tank?

    No thank you.
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