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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by xy500, Mar 21, 2013.
I'll work it out, thanks
I have a WRr, the bike is unreal good for a 250 and often scoffed at by others because it is a 250. I use mine to commute (40 miles one way) and ride off road. For my use and being able to have only one bike, it is the best possible bike for me.
I have no experience with a Husky, I do hold them as well as KTM in high regard when it comes to performance. However I am still not convinced of the overall reliability, others will say otherwise.
same boat here. had a wr250r for 3 years, and did an offroad trip where i wanted better suspension and more torques.
i ended up getting a 450exc RFS ktm. you shouldn't rule one of those out, they're very durable for what they are. and WAY more fun than the wr (don't flame, i loved mine, i just wanted MORE, and i'm not racking up huge miles or anything)
Sounds like the bike for you would be EXC350/500, but you said they're too expensive.
Maybe a used 525?
Or build-up a DR-Z E model (if street-legal there) with suspension?
Or a 530. The Husky will not have the gear spread I'd prefer as an all arounder.
I wouldn't want a narrow gearbox if I had to ride pavement to the trails. (Personally, I don't like a narrow gearbox when I'm in the trails, either.) That would rule out the Husky.
If you think a KTM/'berg is too expensive to maintain, why are you looking at a race bike with lights that only holds a quart of oil?
I think you've got a lot more options than you realize... if you are looking for new, try and find a leftover that meets your budget. Don't rule out shipping a bike if you find one far away.
The TE511 is significantly better offroad (no comparison).
The WRR is significantly better on-road (no comparison).
So, I guess you're in a real pickle (as we say in the States).
Above 45 mph, the Husky vibrates like a paint shaker on the Tarmac, compared to the Yammie that is smooth as glass.
On the rough trail, the Husky is cat-like nimble with the traction of a bulldozer, compared to the Yammie that feels more sluggish & slower reacting. The WRR is definitely more work in the woods comparatively.....no contest.
In contrast, my (70 degree motor) Husaberg FE390 has all the desirable woods traits, while still running the slab quite smoothly without much vibration.....though I wouldn't want to ride it 200 miles round trip to & from the trail system.
The biggest problem riding a KTM/Burg long distances is tires IMO. I'll ride my 530 or 570 200 miles a day on the street no problem, but on sumoto wheels/tires. That knocks off almost all vibrations. I hate to waste a knobby too.
Same here- went from a WRR to a 525; no regrets at all. BUT, that's not to say the WRR is not an excellent bike. Really, the better choice would totally depend on riding style. For general exploring duties, commuting, and general plunking around, the little Yamaha is hard to beat. IF you are an aggresive rider, the higher performance bike is just so much more rewarding.
Some of you may have misread my post.
I'm not looking for a race bike with a plate - something like that would make a great second bike. The te511 husky to me is not a race bike, whilst it could be used as one, it is certainly not it's design intent. A race husky in my mind would be a TC310R or WR300.
I have legitimately researched KTM's, they are far more expensive new and secondhand than equivalents here (e.g. wr450f etc.). Secondhand condition of available ktms are questionable. Also cost for parts in Australia for them are very high. Even husky parts are relatively cheaper, and i would expect the BMW motor would need far less in hard parts than a katoom. They're a rich mans bike here, and i just can't see the justification to pay more for what they offer. So whilst it's great if they suit you, i have checked them out for myself, and for my circumstances they do not suit.
IF i did have that sort of cash i would get two bikes, but neither would be a ktm. maybe a YZ250?
Buying a bike from another state unseen is just asking to throw money away, i don't know how trustworthy americans are, but you can't trust an aussie to advertise something honestly.
Changing oil is not expensive, or difficult. to me its a complete non factor when differentiating between models. No matter what bike i have i always change the oil very often for peace of mind.
Maybe if you were looking at this scenario as if all bikes cost the same to buy and maintain. But this is not the case. I can and do ride aggressively, i love riding high performance bikes. But you can't ride all hipo bikes to and from trails. And i'm sorry but from my personal experience with ktm i would not say they are nearly as durable as the equivalents available here. I wouldn't expect a 525 to last more than one season of my use without a rebuild.
I have a 511TE 2012 model. These are race motors that can connect the
trail. I don't think it would have the longevity running the road you would
seek, and they require maintenance that all motocross, enduro bikes need...
Mine is reasonably smooth at 50/55mph, and with the recommended modifications, makes great power, and is a wonderful big bore for harescrambles
And enduros/real dualsport rides. I think a WR450 would be worse and not
as competitive, the WR250R would not require as much fooling with, but
Off road the TE kills it dead. It is right for me, to commute, I have a KLR650,
And and old 1200S Bandit. The TE511 is not a commuter bike, it's a racing
ever ridden one?
I don't think you really know what they're like at all.
610 not a 630 or 650.
They start to jump up In weight.
Ive done 20, 000 miles of a mix between commuting and intense single trail.
Heres a taste of how it goes in the tight stuff:
And on the not so tight stuff:
Carby version October 05 onwards are the best.
Two things to think about here, first the WR250R will have a
much better resale then the Husqvarna and second where will Husqvarna go now that BMW has sold the company to KTM.
Yep. Owned one, and still swap off with my club friends.
No comparison, horsepower, handling, price. It may last longer,
But the older ones at the club seem to have same wear issues as all
The others.....I am 57, and been riding multiple bikes for 40+ years.
I really have no brand loyalty. 5 bikes in the garage all different brands.
I graduated MMI in 1980, and spent some years as a Yamaha the BMW
Mechanic, before I decided I had to make more money. I like what I like,
Different horses for different courses. The husky list is higher, but always
1500/2000 cheaper than the WR450, with better components in my opinion.
Always buy what you want is my motto, we mostly all see it different.
I had a WRR for almost a year and just could not get comfortable on it. Just something weird about it that didn't fit me. I tried a new seat, new bars, bar risers, etc. Nothing helped. It was a great bike otherwise. Not many bikes you can commute at 70mph, get almost 70mpg, and still hit single track on. If I could have found a way to make it not hurt my back I would still have it for sure.
I went from a WR250R to a TE511. The WR is a great bike and runs very smooth on the highway. What it lacked was power, specially after my trip to Moab. That's why I decided to get the TE511. I changed the rear sprocket from a 51 to a 48 and it is smoother now at highway speed, but NEVER as smooth as the WR was. In the dirt there is no comparison, TE511 wins hands down. On the road I wouldn't ride it for a long time, but it has the power I was looking for.
You need to work on your research skills.
Going by what you have posted here, stick with the WR, or look at a DR650.
I don't think you should be moving to an open class enduro just yet.
+1. I was going to suggest the TE610 also over the 511. The 610 has a true wide ratio gear box so it makes the highway runs much easier, but it still will blow away the WRR off-road, and I believe the motor has longer service intervals. I actually went from the TE610 to the WRR, but that was more or less because my wife was on an XT225 and the TE610 was way overkill for the riding I was doing with her. I really do miss how awesome the TE was off road when I wanted to be aggressive. I can still do it some with the WRR, but the TE just had so much good power. I do enjoy the WRR on the road more than the TE610, but the 610 wasn't bad. I did a 2500 mile trip on the TE610.
We just got my wife the CRF250L and I'm still really enjoying the WRR when I ride with her. I miss the Husky though when I ride with my buds on their Husky's.
cheers for this 'helpful' feedback.
I've already ridden a few powerful open class bikes (all yamahas tho), i have no idea what point you are trying to make.
i'll check out the 610, there is a few on the secondhand market.