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Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by A2OD, Feb 5, 2014.
Is this possible?
Keeping the question short.
Thanks for the reply.
If your asking the question, I would say you have doubts, if you do.... the true champion of your trip would be your passenger
It's more I know the bike is not designed for it. I know me and the passenger can cope as we do always just wondered if this bike was up to it.
The bike isnt designed for it,its mostly a race bike,the seat is very thin and narrow in the back,no passenger pegs,bike will wheelie at the drop of a hat without a passenger on the back.
But dont let that bother you,any bike made can have someone sit on the back.
Ok bolt on question, how would you go about modifying one?
Thanks for the reply.
I seriously doubt if the subframe would stand up to that. It was built as an off-road competition bike with an eye on minimum weight and a steel subframe would have made it a pig for that purpose. My guess is that the reason a WR250r weighs about 30 lbs. more than the WR450f is extra weight in the subframe (and the passenger pegs) to make it 2-up-able.
That being said, a person could fabricate a new sub-frame with passenger pegs and enough beef to handle the weight, but it wouldn't be easy. I'd study the subframe on a WR250r really close and get to know a weldor that can handle aluminum if I was serious about doing it.
This^^^^ I'd be taking a different bike.
Not without a braced subframe and a sixth gear...
Short answer; sure, anything's possible.
Are you riding in trail or on street? The bike is geared badly for street. And not any fun on trails with extra weight on the back and no way to move around on the seat. I can imagine a steep, slow hill with even to lightest passenger would be quite the challenge. On steep hill climes, with that power and no weight on the back you have to lean over the bars. Back of the seat has no padding. Subframe is not strong enough. No pegs. There is so much wrong with this and so many bikes out there that are made for this. Why? So long answer; HELL NO!
Riding 2-up is bad for the rider, bad for the passenger, bad for the relationship and bad for the motorcycle (I ride a GSA 12). Done it both ways, buy her a bike.
I have a KLX450R which is very similar to WR450. My bike is plated but I only ride on streets as briefly as possible to connect to other trails. I would not recommend for long street rides or to ride two up. Not intended for that type of riding. Both are more or less for racing/competition use or dirt only use.
SEBANKS:Riding 2-up is bad for the rider, bad for the passenger, bad for the relationship and bad for the motorcycle (I ride a GSA 12). Done it both ways, buy her a bike.
I know you didnt mean anything by it, but not every one can just run out and buy a new bike, or another cheap used bike for that matter. I cant do that at the present. ( 3 kids and a wife of 21 yrs ) He sounds alot like me... No disrespect but I am Assuming that if he could afford another bike right now that could handle two up riding, he wouldnt be asking about modding this one.
sometimes even in MotoGP, when someone's bike dies during the cooldown-lap, they hitch a ride back to the pits....... so two-up on a WR450 must be possible. But it is NOT designed for this, so it could be asking for trouble in many ways. Probably uncomfortable at best.
I used to do quite a bit of two up riding on a slightly modded WR 400. Including a 5 day ride in Australia. The worst part was the seat and I made a better one with a it more padding.
You should probably just try it down the block with one of your mates on the back, then you'll have the answer to your question.
It depends on how far you want to go and how comfortable you want to be. I have a YZ426, similar to the WR450 and i had to ride with a 200lb friend on the back because his bike broke down, it was not fun and we went about 2 miles out of trails.
So to answer your question, yes. you can ride two-up on a WR450. But it will probably ruin the bike and your friendship with your passenger.
you can do just about anything, but that doesn't mean that you should!
My initial plan was to ride a drz400s across America ... I'm on a V-strom now and so glad I chose a bigger slightly heavier bike!
The random wind blasts on the open and extremely long roads would push me off the road on such a light nimble bike ... not even mentioning the sore ass
I used to ride 2-up on my early 80s Honda XL600. It was poor at best, and that bike came with rear pegs and a decent rear frame.
I wouldn't do 2-up on the street without rear pegs, for starters. If you have that part worked out, and a light passenger, it could be doable for short day trips.
how about a KLR
Do they come with rear pegs?