X-Challenge - Accessories/Farkles

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Redbull Addict, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Cail

    Cail Been here awhile

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    We have a suspension guy here in town that is trying to figure out what to do with that non-servicable damper rod. That chepy damper rod is our achilles heal right now as we have already ruined one. Stock fork travel is 10.6". Marzocchi sells a full works 45mm fork and a 45mm Shiver works kit. But they are made to work with an approx. 12" shock. I wonder if you can just do a shortening kit of approx. 1.5" to make it work in conjunction with the Ohlins rear shock.

    Apparently the Yosh TEC spark arrestor insert fits the Remus and quiets it down. There is also a company in San Fran that's making an insert. I'll try to find that tomorrow.

    That stock clutch cable is real big, much larger than a standard dirt bike cable. We're having trouble cross referencing to see which perch and lever will work. Any ideas?
  2. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul Super Moderator

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    I haven't fiddled with the brake lever yet. BMW had a weird Brembo on there. I may fit a Nissin master so I can get around that, but I'll have to use a hydraulic brake light switch.

    On the clutch, the generic ASV should be fine. I'll fit one up over the weekend - but it is a hotstart one with an extra lever that I'll never need. You'll need a different mirror mount too, as the ASV's done have those built in.

    Hit eBay - ASV dumps all the blems and remans there for cheap. I've bought tons of them for as little as $10.
  3. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul Super Moderator

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    I'm working on that. The cheapo damper rod is what turned me off the fork. I am working on using a 45mm Shiver from my WR250 to get a better fork up front, and reducing the ride height a bit will be the least of my worries so far. I'm tearing into that to what what I can mix and match to get a good compromise.

    It's be easy to lower a works Shiver, but the problem is the axle clamps that BMW spec'd. They are different than any other 'Zoke I've seen.

    Excellent.

    I'm looking at making a thinner ID cable to work. The OE clutch perch is junk, and that's what I am afraid of breaking.
  4. Cail

    Cail Been here awhile

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    Are you sure the standard ASV will fit? We tried numerous perches and levers, not an ASV, and the actual clutch cable and sheath were too big.
  5. Cail

    Cail Been here awhile

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    We're going top try some to modify some standard Shiver internals (off a Gas Gas I believe) first.

    If that doesn't work then we'll just use the whole Gas Gas Shiver with Gas Gas, hub, wheel, front brake assembly. Then it would also be easier to mount a standard fender and mx type number plate as we don't need a headlight for racing.

    Let me know how this goes.

    We are slowly running out of time. Our race is in 3 weeks! The next one on the BMW won't be until March. I'm sure we will learn a lot in Parker and will probable change setups 3 or 4 times this coming year. But it is real cool racing something noone else has. Not only do you race it but you also have the satisfaction in knowing you actually built it. And not just with a bunch of mail order parts, because there aren't any.
  6. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul Super Moderator

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    I reckon the Husky fork I'm working with is the same as the gasgas. I am really hoping to not have to go so far as to not make a steering stem and swap front ends. For me, there is a very real scenario where I don't want to have too many one off parts - I'm going to SA on this bike and that stuff always has a way of biting you on the butt.

    I hope you'll update us on how you do with the bike.

    Have you swapped to an Ohlins, and if so, have you measured the wheel travel with the shock?

    I made a piece of aluminum angle to mount a standard fender. I'm going to use a UFO replica I had on the shelf for my KTM550.

    On the cable, I think we might just get away by swapping the ferrule on the end of the sheath to work with the ASV perch. I won't have time to monkey with it until the weekend.
  7. PacWestGS

    PacWestGS Life Is The Adventure!

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    Oh so true :lol3

    Each one of these bikes is a "One Up" specialty... :D

    I'm following closely :ear
  8. Cail

    Cail Been here awhile

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    As a last resort we'll just slid the Gas Gas forks into the BMW triples, they should be real similar in outside diameter. We haven't had the GG forks inthe same shop as the BMW triples yet. But we're hoping they would just slid in place. But like I said that is last resort. We really want to swap something into the BMW's fork. It should be doable.

    Our shock came in Monday. We have it mounted but haven't measured travel yet.

    I'm pretty sure the BMW guys want us to run the stock fender and headlight shell. We're dirt bike guys and want it to look like a dirt bike, so we're still in a little bit of a discussion over the whole thing. So if we had to run the GG fork then we would have to run the mx fender and number plate.

    Let me know what yo come up with on the clutch cable.
  9. X-Rated

    X-Rated Been here awhile

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    Steve, please - we need photos, photos, photos!

    Pick up my G650X in Wollongong tomorrow. Will be delivered with headlight guard, hand protector kit, low seat, rear carry rack and brackets, rear luggage roll (whatever a 'roll' is!), 14 tooth front sprocket, foam air filter, rim locks and knobbies. All for FREE as part of package. They have also installed a BMW accessory socket for my GPS. Good package deal! Ride-away price was very good, too.

    I ordered a slip-on from Pipemasters in Brisbane. Should be delivered in mid-January.

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    Cheers...

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  10. shardzero

    shardzero I have a bike.....

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    He Steve Red, so the Australian Ohlins will be different? What issues are there with bottoming out on the US shock? What price were you quoted for the Ohlins PDS part.
  11. SteveRed

    SteveRed Adventure Mojo

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    Ye.. Steve Cramer was quite insistant that the shock they are building will be a far better shock than the US component. I was quoted AUD$1850 for the Touratech shock which I am told is the Ohlins 633 (read basic!) and the PDS part will sell for AUD$1589.

    Ye,Ye.. I will take some snaps this weekend. I have so much stuff to put on the bike but have been running it stock waiting for my bloody pipe from Germany. I wanted to pull the bike down and rebuild it with the new tank, radiator guard, handlebar risers... I'm even thinking of wrapping the header pipe to protect my inside leg! Looks like I will be busy after Christmas when I get the new seat and rims from Woody :wink:
  12. Olas

    Olas the darkness

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    Has anyone run any extra electrics using their battery on the xchallenge? I'm thinking about some heated gloves but have heard in another forum that the charging system just can't handle it.
  13. GB

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    The charging system puts out 280 watts, you should be able to run 1 heated vest OR heated grips and be ok. There's a built in voltmeter in the display so you can keep an eye on the state of the battery, turn off the heated vest when riding in stop and go or going slow, and turn it on at higher engine RPM's.
  14. FlyingFinn

    FlyingFinn Long timer

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    I ran heated vest last weekend while riding the XC between Phoenix - Tucson - Phoenix. No problems what so ever, didn't even lower the indicated battery voltage.
    Might be different story during extended low-RPM smell-the-roses trail riding, I only used the vest when on the super slab.
    As soon as I hit the trails being cold was not a problem anynmore :-)

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  15. PacWestGS

    PacWestGS Life Is The Adventure!

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    Just got off the phone with Kyle Racing and asked the question: is the BM633 for the X-Moto the same BM633 for the XCH?

    No, (From Ohlins direct)

    The shock body and externals are the same, the internals are completely beefed up, with lots of internal changes in shaft length (16mm shorter), valves, spacers and bushings. It's built for abuse... :evil

    I don't why they just refer to it as the "Modified" BM633, but it is a different shock from the BMW factory one used on the X-Moto.

    Just thought you'd like to know.

    Oh by the way, mine should be here in time for unwrapping under the Christmas Tree. :clap

    This race prep stuff is fun, but damn is it getting expensive :lol3
  16. bigborefan

    bigborefan Making new friends

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    A "poormans" TT ride. I don't know you GasPipe, but if you are poor, then I must be dirt poor....:D or poorer than dirt poor, whatever that is....

    How does the XC compare to a 640 ADV in your opinion? The XC is very interesting to me.

    Motion Pro may be able to build you a nice clutch cable as well.

    BigBore
  17. SteveRed

    SteveRed Adventure Mojo

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    Ye Pac... I still don't think it is a twin piston PDS component shock that they are now building, as I have been told that they have only built one of these to date! You might want to check on that if you are inclined to opt for an even beefier unit.
  18. SteveRed

    SteveRed Adventure Mojo

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    Here are some pics as promised of the SW Motech system...

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  19. SteveRed

    SteveRed Adventure Mojo

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    Not yet on the bike...

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  20. GB

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    Thanks Steve!! Very good to see those farkles off the bike and installed. Maybe you can chronicle your TT tank along with the plumbing details in a new thread :thumb