XR650L Not starting, no cranking

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by jrsride2002, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. jrsride2002

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    Holy crap..... Walter... I love you.... I never could think of it that way... DUUDDEE :eek1 Im like so high on intellectualness that I cant even see straight.... Wooaahh

    Thanks for the help! It does happen with the key, not the button/switch
    To tired tonight, but will work on it tomorrow.
    ~Junior
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  2. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    Always check simple stuff..switches then wires. You said you fell. Which side? Good indicator of a short happened. Also when in doubt check with mcma111. He knows these bikes well and from threads I've read rebuilt several. You might have twisted some wires off in your fall.

    Good luck.
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  3. jrsride2002

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    Yea, i've been reading a few other topics that he has is mitts into. I myself and a total dunce when it comes to electrical stuff, so I personally dont see how checking a switch is simple... Just beyond me is all im saying. Thanks!

    My solution:
    As to my solution, I did unplug the wire going from the starter button, to the dimmer switch.
    What I did was just unplugged the Blue/White connector from the dimmer switch side of the harness altogether. Then tapped the connector off with electrical tape. So far it is working, but I thought I had this issue figured out before, so I am not getting throwing down my happy dance just yet. However, thanks to Walter's help, I believe this will solve my issue. If I were using the stock headlight, this would do nothing for me. Being that I do have an aftermarket headlight setup, this is a solution....:freaky

    Will come back to this thread after a few more rides, and give a final update. Thanks again to everyone who helped out!!!!
    ~Junior
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  4. cbig

    cbig Rift- Raft, SCooter Trash

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    What a dimmer switch is unless you mean hi low beam. If yours is like my 600 that is a switch on the left. Your setup sounds different... Hence your hot lead may be wired different or all together. Need to see your aftermarket schematic.

    Either way if yu unplugged it and it runs, what does that tell you? Could mean you have a short there, yes? Connect one end of your taped up leads to a multimeter, the other to the handlebar. (ground) check it on ohms and see if there's continuity. Then check the other lead, and check them both while using the switch. If irrespective of the use of the switch you have continuity you found your short. If that switch side is what hit when you went down be a good bet. Sounds like your positive source for the solenoid is grounding or shorting out, causing your fuse to blow. If this same hot lead is sent to your "dimmer" or is on some common bus you are on track. Generally a hot lead (positive) is supplied to the hi low switch which gets sent to either high or low. 2 position switchCan't tell without seeing it and you have an aftermarket setup. Not solving this isn't helping by keeping the lead out.

    Generally stock xr's are damn reliable provided you keep oil in them and do minimal maintenance. Good luck.

    Chuck
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  5. jrsride2002

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    Yea, you're right. The left side switch for the hi/low
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    Baja Designs dual Fuego lights


    Yea, i'll dig a little deeper tomorrow. Today, im burnt out.
    As for the headlights(pictured above), they run directly to the batt with there own inline fuse and handle bar switches(1 light, 2 lights, and off).

    Thanks Chuck. Will take a look again later,
    ~Junior
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  6. 8gv

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    Likely the most logical and user friendly troubleshooting post I've seen. You sir, are a contributer!:clap
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  7. jrsride2002

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    Oh God yes!! I am thankful that someone took the guess work out for me, because I would STILL be guessing WTF if it were not for Walter's help!!:bow:bow:bow

    No new update as of yet, but will mention changes.

    Again, thanks to everyone!!
    ~Junior
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  8. jrsride2002

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    Hey guys, im just posting an update.

    With the awesome help of Walter, my wire unplugging worked like a charm! I haven't blown a fuse yet, no issues with the starter not drawing enough or drawing to much. New batt is holding in strong, so everything seems just right!! :evil

    OK, so im confident that this wiring mod worked out for me, in my purposes/needs
    Again, much thanks to ALL for input, knowledge, and help for this fiasco, :freaky

    ~Junior
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