XR650R electricity

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  1. DRBImagery

    DRBImagery Have cameras, will travel

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    Thats what my system does,,,ground on the ac side....closed loop on the dc, real nice harness they make.

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  2. *Ck*

    *Ck* Goin south...

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    Yea their harness is definitly the best i've seen, definitly a lot more expensive though, but worth it, if it lasts longer. I also like how it comes ready to support many 12v run accessories, I"m going to wire in a 12v plug to the front and to the rear, all I got to do is plug them in.
    I havn't got my vapor speedo from them yet, hoping that is fairly straightforward.

    cheers

    Ck
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  3. Vancouver Supermoto

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  4. stuc

    stuc Been here awhile

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    I've got an Australian Spec BRP (which has a rectifier + capacitor to create a DC circuit, from which run the blinkers + speedo light). I'd like to connect my Zumo into this circuit to keep some charge on it.

    - Would I cause trouble just connecting the zumo directly to this circuit (it doesn't have a battery, I don't know if the voltage/amps are constant enough to be safe for a GPS which is expecting DC).

    - If I needed a battery, how would I wire one in? I note that most recomendations say that batteries will take a constant charge of 10% of capacity.
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  5. XRider

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    First you need to find out what voltage the gps requires, I have one that uses +5VDC and another that uses +12VDC. It will be printed on the GPS at the jack where the charger plugs in.

    If it runs on 12 volts you can connect the car charger for the GPS at the capacitor, this is where the power will be the cleanest. However since the power from the bike will be charging batteries in the GPS and not powering the unit itself it's really not much of an issue.

    You don't have to install a battery on the bike to make this work but it will only charge when the engine is running. You may need to put a couple of diodes in line otherwise when the bike is off the cap might suck the GPS batteries dry. The diodes will keep the current from flowing back into the bike harness. An inline fuse wouldn't hurt ether.
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  6. stuc

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    Perfect! That's exactly what I need to know. The wiring for the GPS already has a fuse inline, I shouldn't have much trouble getting a diode. :clap
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  7. Gunslinger1

    Gunslinger1 GIVE'R

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    Background:...................I put a 100 watt 8" race light on my XRR along with 200 watt stator, capacitor (no battery) and a recomended heavy duty voltage regulator per the boys at Ricky Stator...its off an ATV.

    PROBLEM:.............my voltage is crazy bouncing around.......ie. 14.4 to 11.3 to 12 to 7.8.then goes back up with crazy sequences.........when it hits 7.8 my gps says it has lost its power source...so every few seconds it will come up lost power source.........that is the only reason I knew there was something going on......I then set a data field to voltage and started watching it on the gps.........it seemed to be worse when I had my headlight on........but it still did it when off............It make NO DIFFERENCE what my RPMs are.........I have had 14 volts at idle and then 7.8 show up at speed. When you turn the bike off.......no power....no battery.....it will read 7.8.

    I need to fix this as I have a Big Trip coming up...

    Let me know what you think.........

    Tim
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  8. 4play

    4play Next?

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    I have not played with a capacitor in a DC system, but your symptoms sound like it's not working properly. When I added a larger battery to my rig it stabilized the voltage
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  9. Gunslinger1

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    I think I have a bad V. Reg.....put the old one back on and the voltage is steady as a rock..

    Thanks
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  10. ThumperDRZ

    ThumperDRZ Bouncing off Rocks!

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    Hope someone can help here.....buddy has a Ricky Stator 200 watt stator installed on his 04 XR650R....having a problem troubleshooting some electrical problems. One question.....checking the stator windings to ground...one white wire and one green wire are showing continutity to gorund. I know on the DRZ, this means the stator is shot. What about on the RS Stators for the XR?

    Thanks for any help.
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  11. Gunslinger1

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    I have ruled out V. Reg......I put a new one on and did not fix my problem, I have ruled out battery (capacitor) as I have switched them out and nothing changes............I have found out if I ground the case of the V. Reg ( is sits on plastic) my volts will become steady and correct..........If I flip my 8" race light on my voltage drops way down and the light is very dim......................:dunno
    Let me know what you.

    Thanks,
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  12. Neonasty

    Neonasty Been here awhile

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    It sounds like you have an issue with a floating ground line. Check that there arn't any broken ground wires. Check that they all have a clean (paint and crap free) connection to the frame.

    Disconnect the headlight to eliminate this as an issue. Take a measurement, then re connect it and do it again.

    I know that when Ive had strange readings like this (in a part life as an elec. tech) it usually could be traced back to a faulty earth connection.
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  13. XRider

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    Gunslinger,
    Do you have the stator connected for single output or are you running 100w AC and 100w DC? If you've got an AC/DC system it sounds like you need to float the AC ground. In other words you need to isolate the AC ground from the frame ground.
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  14. Gunslinger1

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    I am running single 200 Watt........
    2 greens from the stator tied together
    2 whites from stator tied together........each hooked to a yellow wire from the H. Duty Rec/VR.

    4 wire V. Reg
    Black to neg on battery/capacitor........right now I have the batter tied in
    Red to what I am powering on the bike..big head light, taillights, and heated grips.

    The ground that comes back from the headlight is grounded to the frame......

    That's it.......

    recap........case ground the V. Reg...there is a load there as she arcs when I do this....even volts...no light
    take the ground off the case.......light is bright and voltage is all over the place...

    Thanks for the help fellows
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  15. XRider

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    OK so you're running a single output DC system. The black wire from the reg/rect should have a ring lug crimped on it and be connected to the frame. The (-)black wire from the battery should have a ring lug also and needs to be attached to the frame using the same bolt as the reg/rect black wire. Take the cap out for now. Is the stock AC regulator still connected to the harness? I'm sure the stator wires no longer go to it but are the other 2 wires still plugged into it? If it is then unplug it. Also, with the reg/rect disconnected check for continuity between the red wire and the case. In fact check for continuity between all 4 wires and the case. Post back with what you find and we'll go from there.
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  16. Gunslinger1

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    ......Great
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  17. XRider

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    I just thought of something that could cause the symptoms you describe. Although I'm still interested in knowing if any of the reg/rect wires are shorted to the case. After you check that remove the flasher unit for the blinkers and see if the problem continues. I think you have a power to ground short somewhere, of course finding it is the trick. I would take your gps out of the circuit for now so that it doesn't get hosed from all the power spikes. Also, is the 100w light blowing (10A) fuses?
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  18. ThumperDRZ

    ThumperDRZ Bouncing off Rocks!

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    Hey XRider - see post 91 at top of page. That question pertains to Gunslinger1's stator....I'm thinking continuity to ground from any stator wire is a bad thing. It is on the DRZ. I just went through it with mine. He has one green and one white wire showing a short to ground with an ohm meter.
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  19. Gunslinger1

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    NO flasher unit on the bike and no fuses blowing.

    I only power
    Headlight
    tail light
    heated grips
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  20. ThumperDRZ

    ThumperDRZ Bouncing off Rocks!

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    I just called Ricky Stator- You are not supposed to have continuity to ground. Remember - one white wire and one green are shorted to ground. He said to check the wire bundle where it comes out of the case. You probably have a pinched wire.

    This is good news as long as your stator isn't fried.